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im looking at starting business building chevy engines starting with small blocks.
and i figure i might as well throw one in the luv, you gotta back your product.

i would be looking at about 450-500 horse pretty basic 302. sleeper truck. so i can save a LITTLE bit of gas while sucking my tank empty.

which transmission should i be going for, i love manual trannys but im thinking about a th350 or 400 to simplify things and keep strength a bit, but not having experience with sbc auto trannys another opinion is always welcome.

which rear axle would hold out the best without being totally overkill?
im planning mostly street use, with some tire roasting and the occasional "city-drag, make the rice burners look SLOWWW" day in between.

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Luvless
1980 Mikado-Sold.

1993 Lexus SC400 my Daily
2004 Yamaha WR250F my new love in life
2016 Toyota Camry my girls ride

I would go with a 400 with a brake and a 9 inch.

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A 302 has very little torque, which is why GM didn't offer an automatic behind them...

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its between a 302 and a 383. everyone has a 350, 327 or 305. gotta have something a little different, both are simple builds. a 5 speed manual would be great
i have time to figure out what to use and how i want to set it up.

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1980 Mikado-Sold.

1993 Lexus SC400 my Daily
2004 Yamaha WR250F my new love in life
2016 Toyota Camry my girls ride

its my goal once i get some money saved up and am able to start profiting from engine builds to modify a luv with a 383, 5 speed manual and all the little things that make a build unique, and build up my 1.8 in the 4x4 to run turbo and use that as my daily.

just testing the waters at this point getting input on what would be best for the setups from the people who would know.
really wanting to get more into building chevy engines. very enjoyable watching it all come together, and i know everyone who has ever built a motor knows it makes finishing the job have some extra pride come with it

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1980 Mikado-Sold.

1993 Lexus SC400 my Daily
2004 Yamaha WR250F my new love in life
2016 Toyota Camry my girls ride

If you want to get into building SBCs I would build a 421 or 434. Most that are getting serious are using the big inch SBC. The 421 is perfect because you dont have to have an aftermarket block. These engines make A TON of power. Tranny? Any 350 or 400 will easily get the job done. Rearend? 9" Do it and be done with it....

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damn... thats a very good point...
a 421 would sound great under my hood too 0.o

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Luvless
1980 Mikado-Sold.

1993 Lexus SC400 my Daily
2004 Yamaha WR250F my new love in life
2016 Toyota Camry my girls ride

I have an assembled 302 short block im looking to sell if your interested.

I prefer the smaller cubes myself to the larger cubes.

I like the weight breaks, and in a light vehicle, I like a soft launch and hard top end power.

thats small stroke large bore is also purdy amazing under boost.

A.j.

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I like the weight breaks, and in a light vehicle, I like a soft launch and hard top end power.

thats small stroke large bore is also purdy amazing under boost.

A.j.[/quote]

i was thinking about that, because turbos take 2000-3000 rpm to spool up and start making boost depending on the size, when you can rev into the higher rpm range you could be looking at some great boost figures o.0 MORE POWER

almost tempted to build the hell out of a 4.3 and turbo it, but i know within a month or two after i get it done its gonna be "shoulda hada V8" time. but for a daily driver a 6 cyl should be alright.... for now..
still in the planning and pricing stage at this point.

am i the only one that just sat around with the thought "how badass would it be to have a daily LUV, a baja luv and a drag luv" just have a fleet of custom LUV's X^D

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1980 Mikado-Sold.

1993 Lexus SC400 my Daily
2004 Yamaha WR250F my new love in life
2016 Toyota Camry my girls ride

This is not true. properly sized turbos can spool lower. I use a jet burner kit to spool my 91MM on my buick. RPM is not boost related. these variables share very little together. it depends more on engine design to determine proper boost to power relationships.
Low RPM with High boost can work if you know how to use it. forget Horse Power numbers and think torque when it comes to turbo. you may only make 400hp, but deliver 850lbs of torque. if you can hook it and use it, you will eat big blocks for lunch.

I like this idea, since a V6 has advantages to a V8 when it comes to boost. The V6 design lends itself better due to is firing pulses. But a 4.3 is not cheap to build for boost. So I would suggest staying with the V8 for budget reasons. But I seriously doubt there would ever be "shoulda hada V8" after feeling Boost.

already way ahead of you on this thought.

A.j.

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I like this idea, since a V6 has advantages to a V8 when it comes to boost. The V6 design lends itself better due to is firing pulses. But a 4.3 is not cheap to build for boost. So I would suggest staying with the V8 for budget reasons. But I seriously doubt there would ever be "shoulda hada V8" after feeling Boost.

already way ahead of you on this thought.

A.j.[/quote]

niceee

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1980 Mikado-Sold.

1993 Lexus SC400 my Daily
2004 Yamaha WR250F my new love in life
2016 Toyota Camry my girls ride

I love the 231, or the 252.

BUT... they are not for the faint of heart. They are EXPENSIVE to build, as well as there prone to throw fits because they can. They are a tolerance sensitive motor and require lots of attention to keep alive at serious power levels.

Funny thing though, in regular non turbo form - you would be lucky to make 350hp if you spent 5 grand building it. There design is based around turbo use and without it, they cant breathe! a properly tuned STOCK turbo V6 engine will hold to 700hp for awhile before the pistons crack.

A.j.

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i found forged aluminum pistons for it on summit to deal with the cracking. but a turbo 231 would be a great fit for that lil luv dont ya think?

i may be picking up a SC-14 (roots) supercharger for my LUV (to put on the G180. seeing as its brand new rebuilt from a new block and head all the way up. might as well boost it and run it for a year or two till it dies while i upgrade the rest of i)
with the emissions delete taking off the air pump/pulley/mount it leaves a bit more room for a second pulley for the charger and a belt tensioner. its my daily driver so i would rather run a supercharger than a turbo for heat, budget and off the start power, as well as the ease of instillation for me.

also going back to college for machining tech. so aluminum pulleys, mounts and all kinds of shiny custom billet goodness are becoming available. second quarter i can start CNC

and build up a 231 in the mean time till i get a hold of a 2wd luv to put it in luvs are getting cheap on CL around here

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Luvless
1980 Mikado-Sold.

1993 Lexus SC400 my Daily
2004 Yamaha WR250F my new love in life
2016 Toyota Camry my girls ride

T65 six speed and a Ford 8.8, 4:10 gears. Check prices. the T56 and 8.8 arn't that expensive.

not bad at all pricing is pretty good on everything.

my other question is forged internals... necessary for a base buildup or no?
not planning on any track time soon. i have a dirtbike to beat up on a track
anyone who has built or knows about SBC 302's?
can the stock internals of a 350 be run at the rpm a 302 runs? and will a 283 crank survive or do i need forged crank, pistons and rods run it??
i am not keeping the stock internals permanently. i would like to setup a base built 302 and get the truck setup before i spend money building up the engine, can the stock internals be used for a daily driver??

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1980 Mikado-Sold.

1993 Lexus SC400 my Daily
2004 Yamaha WR250F my new love in life
2016 Toyota Camry my girls ride

The cheap: 283 steel crank, early 327 block, cheap forged pistons '70's 194 truck heads w/Z28 springs, and a Performer RPM intake.
The better: Used DZ302 crank (welded or 20/20), 400 block, thick bearings (not bearing spacers), 5.7 rods, forged pistons (KB), Patriot heads (cheaper 185cc runners), and a good single plane intake.
Both will run hard but the 331 wings just as fast and has more torque.

like I said, I have a complete fresh 302 forsale.

forged crank, forged wiesco pistons, Scat rods, XFI 268 cam.

I even have a set of AFR 185 heads for it.

make me an offer. Im sick of SBCs.

A.j.

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way too broke to afford a built engine which is why i have been trying to figure out what the best setup is to make a really cheap engine

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Luvless
1980 Mikado-Sold.

1993 Lexus SC400 my Daily
2004 Yamaha WR250F my new love in life
2016 Toyota Camry my girls ride

where would i come across the thicker bearings? i would like to go with a 4 bolt main block

just found this
http://www.montecarloss.com/SSThunder/SBCinfo.html

so 68-79 4 bolt main 4" bore block, thick bearings on a 3" stroke crank, 76cc 194 truck heads or go with the 64cc's?, intake, 650+ cfm carb, some headers and a higher volume oil pan and lower oil pickup... sound like a start?
greatest part about small block chevys, you can find parts anywhere for next to nothing headers intakes carbs cranks rods pistons pans and anything else are always on craigslist and ebay. im hoping i can buy a few used parts like an intake carb and headers and heads, clean them up piece together a good engine from a 350. not unlealistic is it?

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1980 Mikado-Sold.

1993 Lexus SC400 my Daily
2004 Yamaha WR250F my new love in life
2016 Toyota Camry my girls ride