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It's not the size of the gun that matters, its how good you can aim it and hit the target, I personally tote a mini mag revolver just about everywhere I go, I tote it concealed, I have a permit to tote it concealed, its not the only handgun or guns that I have, I have been collecting guns for over 30 years, its a right and a privilege to be able to do this, the day that ends is the day we will all be at the mercy of the outlaws and our government. Do the people of England and Australia really think that their government will really protect them when the shit hits the fan, I think not and what will they have to protct theirselves with, a kitchen knife, god have mercy on them.

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tuffLUV, i say fair enough. Point well made.


ret1614, I Think you may have been looking at a different thread.

The one i read was interesting and disturbing at the same time. I wont go into detail.
There was one post in the thread on the merits of different rounds with slug weight and composition vs grain for different purposes. It sort of baffled me a bit. It was like the guy was going to have various different round in his gun should various circumstances arise. Oh! penguin, oops crap thats round 3 in the mag, i need to find a rat and a Polar bear first but in reverse order.


Takes all sorts to make the world go round.


As inhospitable as Australia is it would be an easy country to invade. The population is sparse and spread out in comparison to most 1st world countries let alone 3rd world. The population is dissarmed and it would be very easy to cut supply lines and isolate the major citys from each other. The only thing you would need would be some presence on the sea and in the air, we do have a bit of a navy and some airforce. The army is all over seas in East Timor and Afganistan.

It would only take one over the top dictator type in a country to the north to get the ball rolling on that. Hope it never happens.




Its not the suburb, Hows it go, location! location! location!!!!

My neighbours are all factorys. There is a certain element of society that think it is all right to cruise around (industrial estates) at night and collect things. Sort of like finders keepers. The guy across the road was putting in a concrete apron from the fence line to the kerb, i sprung some guy in a van tying to steal the rebar they had laid down. It wasnt like a full sheet, it was just all offcuts and shit tied together. Chased him off with my shovel handle. They are always going to come back with their mates but they never do.


If i had a gun the neighbours wold be upset. They would not appreciate the bullet holes in their factorys from my warning shots. I have to shoot at something, i couldnt shoot in the air, especially not in a built up area.


Probably a good thing im not allowed to own a handgun. I would be in Jail for waving my gun too much.
Id love to get another rifle, nothing big, just a .22 hornet or soemthing maybe a bit bigger and then just a regular 22. I dont really want to go tarket shooting any more. Maybe an air rifle, i could do that here at home. I used to get my stepdads out and shoot shit with it when i got home from school if mum wasnt home when i was a teen. And a under and over shotgun all ways wanted one of them, the few times ive tried out skeet shooting ive kicked everyones arse.


So in answer to your question terrynnc, i will have a shovel handle Im not afraid to use it either.


Ok enough crap out of me.

Bob.

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That's My brothers hands, I got other big things. My shoe size is a 7ww.. so it is not that. Big brother has not found a gun that wont fit his hands. I can not find a Glock to fit my hands, but Colts makes a nice Defender model that fits nicely. The wife's Beretta 84F Cheetah .380 ACP fits ok, with Speer Gold Dots it will do just fine and was her travel gun. A S&W Model 66 in .357 mag does too. but all those got washed away in that big storm too.

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Rodeonon:
don't you guys in the outback have a right to have a gone to deal with the dingos and such?
The English cops do not even carry guns. Not real smart I fell. I am not sure about the police in Australia.

Switzerland where their is mandatory military service, active duty solders have their weapons at home. Most of those keep a demilitarized version of their equipment at home IE semi automatic rifles.
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Police statistics for the year 2006[13] records 34 killings or attempted killings involving firearms, compared to 69 cases involving bladed weapons and 16 cases of unarmed assault. Cases of assault resulting in bodily harm numbered 89 (firearms) and 526 (bladed weapons). This represents a decline of aggravated assaults involving firearms since the early 1990s. Some 300 deaths per year are due to legally held army ordinance weapons, the large majority of these being suicides. The majority of gun crimes involving domestic violence are perpetrated with army ordnance weapons, while the majority of gun crime outside the domestic sphere involves illegally held firearms.
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If no one had guns, people would resort to weapons of greater capacity. When someone wants to go postal they will use a bomb or something.

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Silverwing, first thing, I apologize, I said in my last post that I was done with this thread but I do need to answer something. Of course I respect your opinion or else I would have never put in the time to reply back to you. I can definitely see where you whole-heartedly believe in your stance as strongly as I believe in mine. We just don't agree at all so that's where I decided to stop beating the dead horse. I can get strong headed over the subject and my beliefs of our elected DEMOCRAT leadership. I practically do not agree with or trust anything they say.

Me mentioning GOD. I am a Christian. I am also a sinner as we all are. I look at attractive women with less than pure thoughts, (Lust) I use some profanity though not blasphemy, I laugh at jokes I shouldn't, there are times when i don't give my full 10% of my earnings (though I try) to my church which I am active in, I have to believe God doesn't want me to go broke and bankrupt. I do say a prayer every time I find a penny no matter how many I find.(I say a separate prayer for each one) Alot of people over here throw them on the ground and I look at it as they have God printed on them so they aren't worthless trinkets and it's a reminder for me to talk to the big man. I am amazed when i find them, timing I mean. (I won't get into all that.) God is everywhere with me and even though I am a sinner and am guilty of alot more than I mentioned above, as long as I keep him in my life and strive to be a better person I'm on the right path. Yes I swear, have thoughts of Lust, have experimented with drugs in my younger days, I could go on but I'm sure you know where I'm going. As long as I try to be a better person, stay active with God I'm doing what hopefully is right. Only time will tell. Yes I LITERALLY thanked GOD George Bush, a strong leader with a military background with a great love for our Country was in office when 9/11 happened. I didn't approve of everything he did but when has there ever been a president that had that kind of approval? If Clinton had still been in office he would have done something stupid like he did in Yemen when terrorist attacked the USS Cole. He sent two missiles that hit an abandoned terrorist training camp. Nobody was injured. He then stood up on TV and acted like a hero saying "More retaliation will come if needed" (not a direct quote but something along those lines. If Al Gore (the inventor of the internet and leader against global warming) had been in office instead of Bush well that would have been a serious catastrophe. I sincerely believe Obama will lead us down the path of an almost impossible return if not impossible indeed. Gun control is the tip of the iceberg. I'm not sure the man isn't the anti-christ.This is probably a sin as well (judgement) but I believe the world is a better place without Saddam and his tyranical Regime in place. Just my thoughts though.

Respectfully,
Karl

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no offense taken mate. cant take these things to seriously or we would spend our dwelling on petty crap. as far as a democrat leadership goes ill have to wait to see what theyre like as im only 20 i only really remember the bush leadership.



what you say about your church surprizes me, very different to over here, for example donating 10% of your earnings ive honestly never heard of that happening. its very different over here. but i supose america is more of "christian country" from what ive seen and read anyway. imnot a christian i don even know what i am honestly probably closest to atheist or theistic satanism once again i dont take it too seriously.

i do agree with you that the world is a better place without saddam, it will b interesting to se how obama hndles the situation over there.

dont u think theres something wrong if you NEED a gun though? seriously of all the places ive been in this country(quite a few) i have never needed a gun.

as for australia being attacked or invaded, with technology these days were so far screwed anyway small arms with pretty much have no effect more than like ly be attacked with ICBMs, and if we were ever invaded our american allies will be heres so fast there wont be a problem.

But if your American allies are over there, then we will need our guns to keep the peace over here...

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Hi I dont know about in Australia, but here in the good ole U.S. crime is rampant, you cant even go to Walmart without possibly getting mugged in the parking lot. I can honestly say that in the 33 years that I have had a handgun that I have never had to pull it on anyone, but thats not to say that before I die that I wont need to. You state that you have never felt the need to use a gun, all I have to say is that you have lived a very sheltered life, I am sure that you have been places that you were in more danger than you realized and I am not trying to be rude but you probably didnt have the sense to know it. I run a small business and sometimes have more money on me than I should have and there is people here that will try to harm you for $5.00 and even though I have never been robbed people close to me have and I dont try to hide the fact that I always have a handgun on me at all times, its better to have it and dont need it than to need it and dont have it, as the old saying goes dont bring a knife to a gun fight you will surely lose. I myself dont believe that you have to attend church to be a good christian, I dont feel that you have to pray to god everyday to go to heaven, I feel that you will be judged on this earth by what you do with your life and how you treat other people, not by you being in church everytime the door is open, I also dont believe that you can sin everyday of your life and then when you know or think that you are going to die that you can ask for forgiveness and go to heaven. I love my wife and son more than I love myself, I tell both of them that everyday, I have never physically cheated on my wife of 33 years, thats not to say I havent lusted after other women, we all have at least all that will admit to it, I dont pickup every penny that I see even though it probably would make more sense if I did and I didnt particulary care for George Bush although all of my siblings are devout Republicans, that is their choice, life is full of choices, some good, some bad, at least I dont try to force my religious beliefs, political beliefs or anything else on anyone else, I just let it be known what I think and go from there, thats why we have a democracy and have different opionions of how we think things should be, but I think that if and when we need one another that we will come together as one and do what is right. sorry this has been so long winded but business is slow today and I need to vent sometimes, everybody have a great day, even you devout Republicans lol, Terry

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It isn't that we NEED a gun here, it's the RIGHT to own one.

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ive noticed alot of you guys when talking about politics, its almost as if its a religion of its own over there. and like religion there seem to be extremists.

i think that is the fundamental difference between you laws and ours, over here its a PRIVELIDGE to own a gun, only people that meet required standards can get a gun.

just out of interest, just how easy is it to purchase a gun over there, for example your average 30 year old male no criminal record, could this bloke just walk into a gun shop pick out a nice hand gun and have it in his hand then and there?

One thing is that this great nation was built on certain beliefs, freedoms and the christian faith. Our NEW government would rather have a go at Socialism and tell us to change our ideals, take away our freedoms and replace god with the Obama faith.

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you know every time a democrat gets into office its the same old rant, but when a republican is in office life is so dandy with not a worry in the world, Republicans and Democrats voted him into office because they were looking for a change, the change may or may not make everybody happy but more than likely Obama will be in office at least for 4 years and he cant make you change your values, only you can do that. If the republicans hadnt voted for Obama then he wouldnt have got into office so blame it on you own party association and on top of that give the man a chance he cant change something in 10 months that it took 8 years to make, I am sorry you dont like Obama, he is here to stay, dont give yourself an ulcer over it, there wasnt much to choose from during the elections anyway, Mccain was a bigger idiot, he may have gotten it too if he had taken a different VP. we both beg to differ, I guess it will always be that way

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I liked Sarah Palin.

Its true what youve said about Obama. Can not fix something that took more than 8 years to set up in 10 months.


But in the case of Chevrolet, i could fix that up easy as, in a few months. They got to start selling the 4 door we are making down here, and sell them in big numbers. You guys would love em. The Sedan, the wagon and the Ute.


Cheers, Bob.

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What they have to do at GM and Chrysler and Ford is to start selling there vehicles at reasonable prices, most people cant afford a $40,000.00 car, they need to go back to selling them so that people can afford them and not have to mortgage their houses to pay for them, but that'a what's wrong with this country now, Greed. They have to always want more than their neighbor, that has alot to do with the problems we are having now, people buying something that they can't afford and doing whatever it takes to get it, that's why we have so many bankruptices and foreclosures, hopefully it will turn around soon

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Hi over here in the good ole USA, at least in North Carolina you have to apply for a gun permit before you buy a handgun, you have to go to the sheriff of the county that you live in and apply for the permit and then you have to wait anywhere from 5 to 10 days before you will know whether you are allowed to purchase the permit, usually it $5.oo for the permit and you can purchase up to 3 permits at that time, then you take the permit to any gun dealer and pick out the gun you want fill, out the paperwork, pay for the gun and then take it home with you, if you have a consealed carry like I do then you can go and buy as many guns as you like or as many as you can afford, to get a concealed carry permit you have to take a gun safety course for around $90.00 and then you take the paperwork from the course to the local sheriffs office and apply for the concealed carry permit, it can take as little as 2 weeks to 3 months to wait to see if you are approved, you have to pay around 50 to 75 dollars more to apply and if you are approved then you have to have you picture taken and give them your fingerprints, concealed carry permits are good for 5 years and then you just reapply before the 5 years is up and pay 50 to 75 dollars more and it will be good for another 5 years, I personally think that eveyone should have to do this to purchase any gun, but this is just me, thanks, Terry

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I have issues with it. Why do they need my picture? Why do they need my fingerprints? I am not committing a crime, nor do I intend to. And if you think they won't stay on file somewhere, you are kidding yourself. Also, why should I pay for a permit? If the govt kept their nose out of my business, then there would be no need for the 'fee' to cover the cost of the permit. Gun safety course, yeah, I can see that, yet that is another 'list' of potential gun owners to be hunted down. And NO,I am not some gun crazy nut. I don't own a handgun or rifle...

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mytmouz, Fair enough, but it is a little bit paranoid. I say thats a pretty fair system, if you want a/the gun its not unreasonable to go through that process. If you want to stay off the radar, no gun. If they kept said prints or photo on file after your permit lapsed and that led to you being picked up for something any good lawyer would sort that out.




I tend to agree with Silverwing. But then i do realise that its in your constitution.

Is that like over here where all these young wankers think they have the RIGHT to have a car licence, when in fact it is a PRIVELIDGE.


Bob.

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I agree with most of your statement. The same old rant goes both ways depending on who gets elected and who doesn't like it. I don't criticize because of political party. Like I said my judgement comes from actions. To me Obama is way too radical. The only kind of change I need is for the government to spend our money wisely and do majority public bidding. I like owning my own gun, I like my insurance the way it is, I don't think the government should own private business and he really stepped over the line when our grade school children were asked to pledge their allegience to HIM and not the country. I've never had a problem with any past president republican or democrat. I think they keep getting more and more bold even when John Q Public steps back and says WTF.

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