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Ok so I was going to install the electronic ignition and was reading the how to in the info page. It was talking about the control module and how to hook it up, well I don’t have the control module so I called auto-zone, shucks and so on they say it is not need by what there computer says. So if this is the case what do I hook the two wires coming from the distributor to? one is black and the other is black w/orange or yellow strip

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My old but now gone Luv...

ok found out the distributor is from a 85 trooper

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My old but now gone Luv...

is was? thats wierd. did 1980 model luvs come with electronic ignition?

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"but its that gut feeling of you're drawn to what feels right for yourself and what you're passionate about..."

'80's did not.. they started electronic ignition in the '81 model luv's

ok. well it was in a 80 motor, but i dont nkow if it worked, cuz there was no head on the truck.

ctmandu, if theres a part that we didnt know about and wasnt included just shoot me or pee roy a PM and we'll try to get the part shipped to you.

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"but its that gut feeling of you're drawn to what feels right for yourself and what you're passionate about..."

as far as I know the electronic ignition setup is the ditributor and all it's internals, the coil and bracket with the gizmo mounted on it. That could be the module??

if you need to see one i can take a few pics of my 83 pup or i could just look at it and tell ya what is there just let me know

I would like to see a photo but I did get it hooked up and it runs fine, the coil I got looks to be the same as the 79 luv at least all numbers match so my ? is would a coil from a trooper make any difference with the distributor and the 2 wires I hooked up to the + side and the - of the coil and left the 1 weir that went to my old distributor disconnected. It just seems too simple compared to what’s in the info page

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well im not to sure about the coil but maybe 800xl might know something about it. i will take a photo in the morning if the batteries aren't dead im my digital cam.

The early 80s Luvs have an electronic ignition with a separate 'igniter' module that sits on top of the coil. That's what the technical article on this site talks about.

I'm not sure, but I think later troopers have the igniter built into the distributer. You must have one of those.

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You went there in that?!?!

thanks thats probably why the store said module was not needed, what about coil do i need a better or hotter coil?

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My old but now gone Luv...

the coil is the same for both ignitions. As far as the control module, I guess they got rid of it later on. When i did the swap and wrote the article i had all the stuff from an 82 LUV/PUP. So the troopers may do things diferent but im perty shure i saw a module ontop of the coil in my buddies 84 Trooper whith a G200.

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1980 LUV 4x4, going under re-construction...

thank and ill check the yards and see about a box on a 85 trooper

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My old but now gone Luv...

BTW MEPR, thanks for the article. I used it a while back to install the ignition on my truck. It was right on the money.

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You went there in that?!?!

thanks. When i first did it i got complete wiring diagrams from an 82 LUV and my 80LUV and blew up like 400% so i could see the wires. I reaserched it for like 2months before doing it. Oh and it should also probly be said that i dont have that e-mail anymore so if anybody needs help whith this PM me through the site.

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1980 LUV 4x4, going under re-construction...

Well, there are only about 10 electronic ignition threads to pick from, but this one seemed appropriate, as it was catman who turned me on to this upgrade.

I got a dizzy from (I was told) an '85 P'up, with two wires. One black, one black w/orange stripe. Hooked the orange stripe to the +, and the black to the -, and that was it. Set the timing for about 9 BTDC. The cap and rotor I bought for it were for an '87 and fit just fine. I forgot to get the PN off the dizzy, but it's half worn off anyway.

The cap and rotor are Bosch parts:

Cap 03188
Rotor 04081

A side note was that the minus side stud in my coil was cross threaded and apparently broke internally while doing this swap. Set me back an hour, troubleshooting. I had to go digging for another coil (I had a spare external ballast type for my old Rambler), and then put the original distributor back in to baseline everything. Of course, while setting the timing, the #1 plug wire came apart where it's crimped on, twice...

Runs like a champ, pulls quite a bit better in 4th. The secondary on the carb is still a little messed up, but it was worth the $70

hay thanks for the part numbers... they never got it right here and keep giving me the wrong cap and rotor

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My old but now gone Luv...

oh did you take the resistor off the coil or not ? i didn't and its seems to be ok

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My old but now gone Luv...

The coil I had on hand calls for an external resistor, so I kept it in place.

The electronic ignition module/distributor setup that they put in the '82 Luv's, Pup's and Imarks that had a 1.8 engine were all identical/interchangable and all used an exterior ignitor module that was attached to the coil much like the old Luv's ceramic gizmo was, and is the simplest/easiest setup to bolt right in and wire up (much like the old 2 wire Chevy HEI type ignition is), and doesn't come from a computerized vehicle.

The newer type that were in the later model Impulses, Trooper, Pups, etc. that had a 1.8, 1.9, or 2.0 I believe had more electronic stuff inside the distributor and was designed to be used in a computerized vehicle along with a crank sensor, TPS, MAP sensor, etc....so I think it is very doubtful that you can get it to work very easily, but since I've never personally tried it, I'm just speculating here...lol.

As for the coil...they all do use the same coil, but if you don't check the spec's for whatever coil you have or you decide to use, or don't test it before you install it, it may be too weak or too potent for you to use, and you may not be happy with the results, and you could possibly damage your ignitor module.

Accel makes a great little high output coil that is designed specifically for this application, and it is right at the top of the spec's for this particular application that sells for about $35.00-$45.00...and is very reliable, and it comes in yellow or chrome (for a few bucks more..of course).

Just have your local parts peddler lookup the Accel high performance coil for an '82 luv or an '82 Imark with electronic ignition...and if they can't figure it out, let me know and I'll try to get the right part number for you.

(BTW..they do have a way more expensive one that the local part store's computer claims will work that is a lot more potent, but it will burn your ignitor module out if you try to use it, as a local guy I see at the parts store from time to time that owns an Imark found out the hard way...lol...so I wouldn't waste your money on it.)

When I decided to make this conversion, I tested a bunch of coils I had laying around with my trusty Fluke and that I found at junkyards locally, but none of them were any good, so I just went to the nearest part store and bought a new Accel one, and IMHO, it's the best way to go for the small amount of money you will have to spend.

My Impulse 1.9 in my '79 stepside is running a used '82 Luv distributor with a used '82 Imark ignition module, and an Accel coil, and it runs great. Without a doubt, the minute you get it all installed properly, and take your truck out on the road for the first time, you will definitely be able to tell the difference.

Points-fired ignitions all tend to fade in the higher rpm's and are never as efficient as an electronic ignition setup is, and once you set the air gap for the magnetic pickup inside the distributor, the electronic ones are pretty much maintenance free.

I hope this all helps you guys...it took me quite a little bit of research and time to figure all of this out...so good luck!