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Who do you like better?
Chevy 65%  65%  [ 13 ]
Ford 10%  10%  [ 2 ]
Isuzu 15%  15%  [ 3 ]
other 10%  10%  [ 2 ]
Total votes : 20
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 Post subject: Lincoln(Ford) 305
PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2004 4:23 pm 
I got a recently rebuilt lincoln 305 from a friend. It's TBI'd and it's an 85 engine with an 86 computer. I plan to put the entire drivetrain in my 80 luv(tranny, rear-end), how should I go about doing this? the only thing I can think of at the moment is sortening the driveshaft.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2004 6:13 pm 
putting up a poll on this site like that is just asking for a shitstorm...

and don't you mean 302? never heard of a ford/lincoln 305...


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2004 6:28 pm 
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You should talk to a guy named Q CRAZY. He has a Luv with a 302 Ford drivetrain. There was another group trying to go with a 351 setup but they had to bail out of the project. Q Crazy had mentioned that it was a major hassle to get his setup correct. He will be able to tell you all of the things you need to know about it.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2004 7:37 pm 
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Asking people if they like Ford or Chevy better...on a Chevy site......odd question.... :roll:


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2004 9:40 pm 
it is a 302, i too am used to chevy.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2004 10:30 pm 
well, there are many factors to take in to consideration. what are the motor mounts going to be, tranny mount, exhaust, wiring, mounting the computer etc,. it would be easier to do all of this work wiht the body off. and if you go to put the body back on, and it doesnt fit, than a small body lift, and/or some cutting may be required. i put a ford 351 cleveland out of a mustang into my f-100 4x4. i had to do a body lift to clear the ransfer case and transmission and bellhousing,


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 12:51 pm 
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The Ford 302 is a good reliable engine. I myself would build a 351W before I messed w/ a 302, though. But for a lightweight street motor, 302s are fine. People have dropped small block Chevys in every make imaginable, it would seem, so whats the harm in dropping a Ford into a Chevuzu? People have no probs using a Ford 9" rear, after all! :wink:

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 1:39 pm 
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The BRG group that attempted the 351 swap had problems like the fact that the motor interfered with the steering column shaft. The overall width caused problems with exhaust routing around the frame at the manifolds. With money issues and so many problems to sort out, they discontinued the project. Hopefully they'll be back with a new gameplan. The reason for going with a 351 was that they had that motor available to put in their truck. It would have been pretty cool if they could have pulled it off.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 11:38 pm 
the ford 302 is one of the smallest, (demensions wise) v8 out there. it is different than the 351 because the 351 has the heads spreadded furthere apart, therfore, a 289/302 intake wont fit a 351. it has been said that the 5.0 (302), is becoming almost as popular as the 350. now there is a long road ahead of the 302 to catch the 350, but it doe have one of the largest aftermarket accessorie market out there. the 302 is a badass engine that when set up right can make tons of power, and all you chevy only guys out there should take notice of the 302, because it is getting lots of attiontion these days. hey, they are all good rigs, they all run, and get you up and down the road, but when it comes to preferances, everybody has there own, and hell, cant we all just get along?


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2004 7:25 am 
when I rebuild the engine, I'm going to make it look like a chevy, orange block, I've already got a set of valve covers for it that say chevrolet on them. By the way, what are some inexpesive performance mods for this engine? (Throttle body injected)


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if the valve covers say chevrolet, they are probably made for chevrolet, and won't fit ford. for performance up grades, you could change up the intake (probably have to anyway) and put a k&n cone filter on it. you could get a throttle body spacer, they might make a chip for the computer or a programmer. you might could find a computer compatable cam for it. and a good tune up always helps.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2004 3:20 pm 
I had the valve covers made for this purpose. It has a new control module. I can hook my laptop up to it to change the mixture and stuff. Never done it though. It's still in the town car and currently does the 1/4 mile in 9:12:32! W/ A FULL TANK OF GAS!


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2004 7:19 pm 
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Man that is so cool! The laptop thing. I wish I had something like that on my laptop, that would be fricken cool. At the track with the LUV, need to change the mixture settings, just whip out the laptop and plug er in, and go at it. Man would that be cool!


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2004 9:04 pm 
remember, the 351w and 351c are two different engines. i'm pretty sure the cleveland is a big block, and the windsor is a smallblock. the 351w is a great truck engine, lots of power, but every one i've ever seen guzzles gas like you wouldn't believe


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2004 1:06 am 
the 351 cleveland is a totally different engine, but it is a small block. now, on fords the small blocks and the big blocks have two diferent bellhousing setups. 351 ceveland, 351 windsor, 302, 289 etc, are all small blocks.

thisd is fords engine groups--

windsor series-- 289, 302, 351

335 series-- 351 ceveland, 351 modified, 400 modified , (both modifieds are big block bellhousing)

FE--352, 360, 390, 427, 428

385 series-- 429, 460

I have a 351 cleveland in my ford pickup, and it is pretty built, but i havent got to drive it yet because it is currently getting restored. some people take the heads off of a cleveland and match them up to the 302 (they bolt up, the water gallies just dont match up). the 351 cleveland has a ver good haed on it, and that is pretty much the standard for nascar engines, is the canted valve etup that the cleveland had. but you have to remeber, the cleveland was only made 70-74, so it didnt come in many vehicles, and the 302 with cleveland heads, that is the boss 302.

i hope that the 302 in the luv works out for you


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2004 1:32 am 
i really do like isuzu motors quite a lot like the duramax diesel quiet idle and smooth nice truck.

i think i havent heard anything bad. I heard from friend at a tractor pull comp they had the stock duramax and for f 350 and i think a dodge and the duramax out pulled both other two Hmmm.

i drove a 1997 dodge ram diesel noisy not smooth ride either

ford well i heard a guy complain tranny goin bad on a 2001 f 350 hmm too bad lol

i m not for jus one brand name their are some good and some bad models in every brand.

its like my teacher told me never buy the first model in any automobile or any thing its usually got a lot of bugs to work out


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2004 7:30 pm 
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Who buys a diesel expecting it to be quiet?? Heck I do everything to make my Powerstroke louder. Louder clatter and louder exhaust! The Duramax by the way is just as loud when not idleing as the other diesels, especially inside the cabin. Also, time will tell if aluminum heads last on a diesel... Put that Duramax up against the 6.0 Powerstroke or the HO Cummins and watch it get left behind in the dust, IMO Ford and Dodge lead the way in heavy duty trucks, hands down. By the way, not flaming anyone at all, just voicing my opinion.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2004 8:25 pm 
their is this burl ford turbo diesel that sounds mean it cruises by our shop 2 or 3 times daily i like the sound of it

i like fords motors though they use quality metals like the discussion on the ford 300 motor its a good motor i ve heard my buddy owns one
or did at least he used to hell i own a 55 ford pickup not restored yet plan on the 460 or 351 windsor

i dont mind early dodge stuff they actually designed a lot of are hot rod parts from back in the day they were just using these modded parts in their race cars and werent going to put them into production and well they sold some of their ideas i dont know much bout the new dodge stuff i want a cuda or charger though grrrrr!!!

chevy now i like chevy too cause their parts are easy to get usually and the 350 and 327 are good motors i think but i have heard bad news from automotive shops on them they always tell me dont get a 350 because some damn reason and i jus kinda nod my head and act like i am payin attention but i m really ignoring them :lol:

toyota's ya kyle knows whats up toyotas are the stuff too 22r good engine one of my favorites check out the latest off roading magazine their is a cool 22r motor they have souped up :P


i dont know what started the whole thing about chevy better than ford hoopla just somthin to bi*ch about

sorry bout the long post hope you enjoyed it though


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 29, 2004 12:13 am 
i garentee that the ford and dodge big pickups are way tuffer than a chevy. the full size pickups have the straight axle and all, and they are just built to be tuff, under working conditions. you see way more fords with cab gaurds on them, and flat beds, doing the grunt work or towing, and driving log distances off-road to logging sites. the chevy pickup is ment for the road, and i bet that is the way shevy desingned them, to have a nice ride, with nice enterior, ect,. i am not the biggest fan of diesels anyway, i dont liek the weird roll on power, i like the snap of the gas engines, like the triton v-10.

they are all good rigs, they all get you up and down the road, they all have four wheels, four tires, and an engine. it is just who ever has the best package for the best price. the small block chevy does have a good price, but i dont see any individualality. the chrysler hemi is real individual, not a lot of guys have one, but they cost a lot. it is just what you have acquired through the years, and what you have grown up on, and usually that sticks with you forever. my dad like fords, there for, i like fords. your dad likes chevys, therefor, you like chevys.


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 29, 2004 1:26 am 
i agree...brand loyalty is a handicap in my opinion. that's what made AMC a good company, they weren't afraid to use a combination of everybody's guts on their motors. it's too bad their design team seemed to be on crack through the late 70s and 80s and they went under :(


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