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chaitobar
PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 3:30 pm 
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yeah, I am probably going to take it to the shop because although it is a simple task that most anyone could take on, I lack the proper equipment. What matters to me is that now I know how for future reference. Also, when I bought my truck it came with the original service manual and dealership brochure, some well-aged yet useful text I tell ya what.
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chaitobar wrote:
I am not working on my truck because I am cheap, I am fixing it because I enjoy being, as previously stated, self sufficient. Ever since I got my truck I have been really excited to learn how it functions and repair what doesn't. As of right now I lack mechanical know-how. However, like I said, I got a chilton's manual and this forum and plan to gain that know-how through time, research, and experience.


In response to using a pipe wrench - I already tried using locking vice pliers and managed to get good leverage and applied a serious amount of force but was still unable to get it off. Today I tried getting the drain bolt off, (after having removed the shifter) and found myself in the same damned position I was in with the fill bolt. Although, this time around I stopped before I started to strip it.


There is a big difference between a pipe wrench and a locking pliers. With a pipe wrench the more you pull on it the tighter it grips the pipe/bolt. You also can slip an extension pipe over the handle and apply much more torque.
However you may not have the room to work there as others have said. Trying to help.
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Oh ok, that's really helpful I did not realize there was a difference. Well shoot, I guess I will try giving those a try. Ill get a file and flatten off two sides and give that pipe wrench a whirl.
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Pipe wrenches are for pipes, ie plumbing, hence the name, not cars. Just saying.

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Kinda sounds like he has a rounded out plug... Round, like a pipe so I imagine a pipe wrench would do nothing worse then strip the plug a bit more and he would only be back to the option of puttin it in a shop. It I used tools to only what they are named to do I would have a garage full of tools I used once and still be lacking some. sometimes all that is required is thinking outside the box.
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Well, have fun with that then. :lol:

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chaitobar wrote:
Oh ok, that's really helpful I did not realize there was a difference. Well shoot, I guess I will try giving those a try. Ill get a file and flatten off two sides and give that pipe wrench a whirl.

You won't need two flat sides with a pipe wrench. It's for pipes, which are generally round. :)
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I would give the pipe wrench a try. I have several in my shop of different sizes. I use whatever it takes and have all kinds of altered tools (purposfully bent wrenches, screwdrivers, [wrenches that are] ground down, cut short, welded on entensions, make my own spanner wrenches, whatever it takes) to get the job done. Made most of the strainer cleanout tools from other tools for my jet boat. I guess what I'm saying is at this point with the head rounded off as bad as he says....I'd try the pipe wrench. Whatever mechanic shop he takes it to will have to use somehting out of the ordinary.

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A pipe wrench with a cheater pipe on the handle. Get under there and get after it! But don't put it back on that tight. :esmile

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Did you manage to get the plug out?
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Nope, I got a pipe wrench and it would have worked. However, the head of the wrench is so bulky and massive that I cant get it fitted on the bolt well enough, or at a good angle.
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would it be unwise of me to siphon the old oil from inside the cab through the top of the transmission by removing the shifter, then measuring out the appropriate capacity of oil and funneling it in?
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Probably would not be quite as good as a complete drain however I bet it couldn't hurt anything and if you want you could probably put some new in and try and use it to rinse the old stuff down and then pull that out to get a bit more gunk. Then refill it with new.
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Be sure to measure out the amount you actually get out of it and refill it with that amount. You'll never get all of it out that way.
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Might be too far out of the box but maybe you can drill a new hole and tap it?
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Pull the driveline out,jack up the front end and let it drain.

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Or just take out the drain plug...
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TILTED wrote:
Pipe wrenches are for pipes, ie plumbing, hence the name, not cars. Just saying.


shit no one ever told me that... i have a small 4" that goes under the seat of every vehicle i have owned and well larger ones in the roller cart... but owning and or working on high milage vehicles a set of sockets isnt the only thing you ever need... i ended up having to use a a 6" pope wrench and 2 foot cheater bar to break the bolts loose in the rear end after i had rounded them off (i got new ones don't worry)

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Nothing wrong with that, though in the 30 years I have been driving, that is one tool that has never been needed on any of my vehicles as there is always a better choice and I have a vehicle that is 73 years old, I got 225000 on another and pretty much every bolt has been off my LUV at one time. And the wrench obviously didnt work for the OP, like he said, it was to big and bulky and I figured if he couldnt get it with visegrips, he wasnt going to get it with a pipe wrench, but I wasnt going to say anymore in the matter, till it was brought back up. :econfused

My advice to the OP is to swallow your pride, admit defeat and take the vehicle somewhere that can remove it, or if it isnt mobile find someone who can come out an do it as it shouldnt cost that much for someone with the proper equipment.

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Flare nut wrenches are useful for more than brake lines. It's too late now, but they've saved me from stripping out many bolts.

The pipe wrench wasn't a bad idea. I've used them before on rounded off nuts, but in this case, it's just too damn hard to get to. Best bet is to weld another nut to it and try again.
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