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 Post subject: DASH DASH DASH
PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 5:32 pm 
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I have a 1977 Luv and I need a replacement dash. I do not need a dash cap or a carpet cover. I have seen one but the guy sold it before I could purchase it. The dash I saw covered everything the original dash covered. Can someone please help me locate one!

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You are number 12,583 in line if one ever shows up. Sorry to be a jerk but this gets asked about once a month.

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You are number 12,583 in line if one ever shows up. Sorry to be a jerk but this gets asked about once a month.


heck its more often than once a month lately, seems to be the first thing asked about by new luv owners.
i gave up looking already and am going to custom do mine.

sorry to be a downer but it really is dang near impossible to find one.

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What happened to the ones coming from the Aussies?


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I was once very seriously considering getting them made since just about every one of us can use a dash or two, but the costs of just the molds for the polyurethane injection molding are pretty steep, like 10 - 15k just for the molds. I was going to contact some other companies, but I kinda put it on hold because I doubt it would be much cheaper with any others that would make quality products. Maybe someday I will do some more research, but with the economy the way it is and sitting on these intakes, I am not in as much of a hurry as I was a couple years ago. Maybe another pallet of new in the box dashes will show up magically again at a GM warehouse like it did 2 years ago!!! :D View this thread for details.....

http://forums.luvtruck.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=19792&p=144008&hilit=pallet+of+dashes#p144008

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I have an old one I'm on round two with trying to repair. I think Ill try a different method this time. Dashes are tough to find...damn near impossible. Good luck and welcome to the site.

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I live in Laurel Mississippi, just outside of Hattiesburg. I have a 75 and a 77 LUV. I guess I will cover this thing myself. I have been kicking myself in the ass for not purchasing one when I had the chance. I thought I wanted to to fiberglass but I think I have decided against it. Someone has a few of these things just sitting around that they need to dig out and sell to us. The one I missed out on came from Japan back in 03.


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I paid over $800 for my brand new still in the Isuzu box dash and that was on eBay like 3 years ago. I have seen others on occasion, but never any lower than $500 or $600. My intention was to use it for production of new ones, but I certainly can use it on one of my trucks. I have held off on that though because I still do ponder finding an affordable way to get these made. Right now isn't a good time though. Good luck trying to find one, or building your own. Browse around the site, I have seen some real nice dashes. Some covered in carpet, some made out of wood, some fiberglass and I think even one made out of metal.

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There's a place in Central Point, Oregon called Sierra Plastics, They make dashes for military vehicles as well as some other odds and ends. I used to work there before moving up north to Sweet Home. They could make a replica dash as long as they have one that's mint to make a copy from. I have yet to find one that's mint. The benefit to Sierra Plastic is, Their plastic covering is much thicker and if they still use the foam that they did when I worked there was, Totally nonflammable. My supervisor there was Ken. I'm unsure if he still works there. It's been a few years ago.


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I had considered maybe an all plastic dash, but not sure how that would go over or if it would look right. Anything can be done, it is just a matter of the cost and how much people are willing to shell out for one. Also how many would have to be made in a run. If 10,000 or some crazy number is the minimum, then that is just too many. Even 1,000 would probably be way too many. What I was checking into was the vacuum polyurethane injection molding with the vinyl covering exactly like the originals. I know that is what I would love to have, one that is exactly or as close as possible as the original, hopefully with better materials to hold up a lot longer, and the correct size. it still comes down to cost and minimum order requirements. No one wants to pay $800 for a dash and no one wants to get a cheaply made piece of junk for a couple hundred either. I figured that if they can be manufactured and sold for $200 to $300 range and be quality and as close to original as possible, then I think it would be affordable for most people. I have a brand new mint original dash still in the Isuzu box, but it still comes down to all of these factors. I would certainly be interested in talking to someone from the place you mentioned and see what they have to say. I believe there are a few places in my region of the East coast that could probably do this stuff too, I just held off the last couple years with this bad economy. It is just not a great time to risk investing tens of thousands into these molds and manufacturing. I don't want to look overseas either and I am sure most people would rather buy made in USA products if they had the choice. I might give this place you mentioned a call and see what they have to say.

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I thought I would add my two cents worth on the dash matter. Back in 1984 I purchased a used 1980 LUV in great condition except for the dash of course. The owner told me he went out one morning to find it had "popped". About a month later I purchased a complete dash just like the original from JCWhitney or perhaps Warshasky for something less than $100. I took my time folding over excess plastic into and around all openings then painted the cover to get rid of the heat soaking black. It looked great till about 1995, but leaving the truck outside in the sun did a number on it again.

Two weeks ago I decided to go for the dash toppers that are being sold. Mine came from JCWhitney, but I'm sure it's the same as all the rest. Anyway, I didn't like the way the dash had holes for the defroster so a person looks down to the factory grill. My dash was in such a bad state like everyone else has, that no amount of filing, rasping, sanding and what not was going to bring things back to the original surface. What I did was cut away and remove a large portion of the top of the dash up to the front area. I searched for foam core, styrofoam, and other sorts of things to fill in what was replaced. That was a lost cause. (Spraying on foam then rasping was also considered - yuk.) It then occurred to me that when we placed carpet in our house we used a first class padding that is quite rigid and doesn't compress much. Making a trip to the attic I found just what I was looking for so made a pattern then cut the padding to replace the dash that was removed. It has the same depth as the original dash and by laying the dash topper on top I knew it was a winner. Using the original defroster and speaker grill, I traced around it onto the new padding then cut it out. Placing the new topper on that brought a bit more cutting so that it wouldn't interfere with the grill that would be added to the new topper. (Yes, I have been taking pictures of my steps.)

My original grill was malformed because of the dash, so after placing it in hot water, it returned to the proper contour. The grill was laid on top of the topper then traced with a sharpie pen where the speaker part was to be cut out. I should have pulled the grill to the front to hide the excess opening the manufacturer made, but everything will look great anyway. The next step was to cut the topper so that it will drop in properly. That can't happen till holes for the small protrusions of the grill fit into the dash. Once that was done, I used the original push on clips to hold the grill to the topper. Since the left and the right sides were cut out and a bit large, I decided to take some brass strips from scrap I had around to drill holes into that correspond to the grill protrusions. The brass was contoured to fit the topper and grill so that everything looks like the original dash. Those brass parts need to be anchored to the topper with silicone or something else in order for the grill to become attached to the topper. I used 3M metal body tape since the glue lasts well. Once the tape was applied I took a DAP 35 yr. acrylic latex caulk plus silicone to fill in the excess hole area in front of the defroster sides. A damp sponge cleaned up excess to give the look of a smooth vinyl curve. What little area there is does not have texture as in the rest of the dash, but I suspect even close observation won't call it to your attention. In any case it looks tons better than some hole that allows you to peer down to a grill surface if left as the company made it. A day later the caulk is dry for painting. To add to the time a hair dryer was used to ensure there will not be a problem.
SEM Color Coat is what I used for the coloring. I first tried VHT but didn't like the color choices I had. SEM makes a Plastic Adhesion Promoter for problem plastics, but after trying some of the color on the back found out that the topper does not need it. That said, I sprayed three coats on allowing each coat to flash before applying the other.

Since the speaker grill cloth was all bleached out I used some new grill cloth I had on hand. The small metal strips that held the original on were difficult to attach once again so I used a toothpick and contact cement to carefully apply it to the same areas as the metal strips. That worked great.

After checking to see the topper would drop in place as required, I cleaned the surfaces with alcohol then applied silicone (twice as much as was provided) then slipped the topper into place. Everything is propped into place with tubes and towels. According to the manufacturer, I should be able to remove all the stuffing in about four hours. Right now I think I will go take a quick picture showing how it looks at this stage then follow up with the finish picture once everything is cleaned up.

What I did was not an immediate process, but if you're like me you want the right results. At this stage I'm not going to post any pictures even though I must have taken 25 or so. If I have wetted anyones appetite to try the same thing or if you want to see some pictures, I'll be happy to do that. My guess is that many of those waiting for a complete dash will rethink that and go for the cut out grill application I just did. Anyway, I hope this helps someone.

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Sure, pictures would be cool. I have seen people do their dash quite a few different ways here on the forum. It all depends on what you want I guess. It still would be great to have a complete, affordable, better quality than original, and as close to the same size as the original as possible and just have it ready to install. I have a dash cap too that I picked up a few years ago, but I never installed it. My one truck has a dash cap already on it. It looks decent and the holes where the speaker area is are a little different, but that is about it. It is slightly bigger than the stock dash though, but it has to be to fit over the top. I believe I read here somewhere in the past that the dashes the Aussie company was making were a little bigger than the original as well. I guess replacement dashes don't have to be perfect, but I know I would want mine to be pretty darn close, if not identical, and hopefully made with better material that will hold up longer. Good luck with finishing it and I look forward to seeing some pics. Welcome to the forums and have a happy new year!

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I thought I would add my two cents worth on the dash matter. Back in 1984 I purchased a used 1980 LUV in great condition except for the dash of course. The owner told me he went out one morning to find it had "popped". About a month later I purchased a complete dash just like the original from JCWhitney or perhaps Warshasky for something less than $100. I took my time folding over excess plastic into and around all openings then painted the cover to get rid of the heat soaking black. It looked great till about 1995, but leaving the truck outside in the sun did a number on it again.

Two weeks ago I decided to go for the dash toppers that are being sold. Mine came from JCWhitney, but I'm sure it's the same as all the rest. Anyway, I didn't like the way the dash had holes for the defroster so a person looks down to the factory grill. My dash was in such a bad state like everyone else has, that no amount of filing, rasping, sanding and what not was going to bring things back to the original surface. What I did was cut away and remove a large portion of the top of the dash up to the front area. I searched for foam core, styrofoam, and other sorts of things to fill in what was replaced. That was a lost cause. (Spraying on foam then rasping was also considered - yuk.) It then occurred to me that when we placed carpet in our house we used a first class padding that is quite rigid and doesn't compress much. Making a trip to the attic I found just what I was looking for so made a pattern then cut the padding to replace the dash that was removed. It has the same depth as the original dash and by laying the dash topper on top I knew it was a winner. Using the original defroster and speaker grill, I traced around it onto the new padding then cut it out. Placing the new topper on that brought a bit more cutting so that it wouldn't interfere with the grill that would be added to the new topper. (Yes, I have been taking pictures of my steps.)

My original grill was malformed because of the dash, so after placing it in hot water, it returned to the proper contour. The grill was laid on top of the topper then traced with a sharpie pen where the speaker part was to be cut out. I should have pulled the grill to the front to hide the excess opening the manufacturer made, but everything will look great anyway. The next step was to cut the topper so that it will drop in properly. That can't happen till holes for the small protrusions of the grill fit into the dash. Once that was done, I used the original push on clips to hold the grill to the topper. Since the left and the right sides were cut out and a bit large, I decided to take some brass strips from scrap I had around to drill holes into that correspond to the grill protrusions. The brass was contoured to fit the topper and grill so that everything looks like the original dash. Those brass parts need to be anchored to the topper with silicone or something else in order for the grill to become attached to the topper. I used 3M metal body tape since the glue lasts well. Once the tape was applied I took a DAP 35 yr. acrylic latex caulk plus silicone to fill in the excess hole area in front of the defroster sides. A damp sponge cleaned up excess to give the look of a smooth vinyl curve. What little area there is does not have texture as in the rest of the dash, but I suspect even close observation won't call it to your attention. In any case it looks tons better than some hole that allows you to peer down to a grill surface if left as the company made it. A day later the caulk is dry for painting. To add to the time a hair dryer was used to ensure there will not be a problem.
SEM Color Coat is what I used for the coloring. I first tried VHT but didn't like the color choices I had. SEM makes a Plastic Adhesion Promoter for problem plastics, but after trying some of the color on the back found out that the topper does not need it. That said, I sprayed three coats on allowing each coat to flash before applying the other.

Since the speaker grill cloth was all bleached out I used some new grill cloth I had on hand. The small metal strips that held the original on were difficult to attach once again so I used a toothpick and contact cement to carefully apply it to the same areas as the metal strips. That worked great.

After checking to see the topper would drop in place as required, I cleaned the surfaces with alcohol then applied silicone (twice as much as was provided) then slipped the topper into place. Everything is propped into place with tubes and towels. According to the manufacturer, I should be able to remove all the stuffing in about four hours. Right now I think I will go take a quick picture showing how it looks at this stage then follow up with the finish picture once everything is cleaned up.

What I did was not an immediate process, but if you're like me you want the right results. At this stage I'm not going to post any pictures even though I must have taken 25 or so. If I have wetted anyones appetite to try the same thing or if you want to see some pictures, I'll be happy to do that. My guess is that many of those waiting for a complete dash will rethink that and go for the cut out grill application I just did. Anyway, I hope this helps someone.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 6:49 pm 
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Perhaps I should start off the new year on the right foot. :)

Here are a few shots of the dash topper install that I did. Unfortunately I did not think of the finished interior shot till the outside lights were poor. What I did shoot is from the truck bed and don't show much of anything that shows how good it looks. I'll get a nice shot down the road. The three shots are a closeup of the grill section, the complete painted topper and then the crummy final shot. Reflected light did some strange things. By the way, I noticed that I didn't take a picture of the padding attached to the dash, but take my word for it in that it makes a perfect surface to apply the topper to.

Lets see if I can do this. Happy New Year everyone.
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Here is the installed topper with better lighting conditions. More needs to be done on the interior, but this was the first step in making it look original. I like the darker blue with the lighter blue below. It is more effective than the one color previously used. I've saved a number of other shots that were taken if anyone is interested in particular aspects. I can probably send some shots directly if need be.


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That does not look bad at all....in fact it looks pretty damn nice....just my two cents worth.

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