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PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 5:34 pm 
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Thanks to all with the help. I do beleive I am going to go with the 2.6/2.3 hybrid with 5 speed tranny. Plan to post all pics of the installation, but don't forget, this won't be until next year sometime as my 53 Ford will be priority. Now to get with James as to what I want for putting his 383 in the S-10.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 6:32 pm 
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Buick Grand National setup. Cheaper than a Cyclone or Typhoon setup... Someone on the board is doing a V6 something like that. Not a V8

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 8:09 am 
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PapaG wrote:
Buick Grand National setup. Cheaper than a Cyclone or Typhoon setup... Someone on the board is doing a V6 something like that. Not a V8


that would be me.....

take a look...........

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 10:40 am 
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Thanks to all with the help. I do believe I am going to go with the 2.6/2.3 hybrid with 5 speed tranny. Plan to post all pics of the installation....


I look forward to seeing your progress. If I beat you to it...I'll do the same.

I'm still sorting out just what's available and what's best to use on a 2.6/2.3 hybrid engine buildup. I know I want to try to use my Offy intake, my weber 38/38 carb and my Pacesetter header from my Impulse G200z engine. Plus I'm trying to figure out what aftermarket 2.6 head to get.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 2:05 pm 
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I would consider a Cummins 4bt. Should make for a nice little tow vehicle.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 6:33 pm 
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4bt won't fit. It is too tall,, the turbo pipe goes over the top of the engine. It weighs some where around a Big Block Chevy, which is ok. I am on a 4bt swap site. You would have to run some kind of tall scoop, and it still might drag on the ground too.

A VW TDI engine would be better, as far as fit.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 9:22 pm 
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Aaaaahhhh was unaware they were that tall. Of course thinking about it and comparing it to the 6bt it makes senses.

Maybe a CRD out of a Liberty?


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dr_frankenstein56 wrote:
PapaG wrote:
Buick Grand National setup. Cheaper than a Cyclone or Typhoon setup... Someone on the board is doing a V6 something like that. Not a V8


that would be me.....

take a look...........

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A.j.

Well, if anyone else doesn't want to, I'll say it...
Oooh, pretty and shiny.. lol
That's one helluvan engine.

Yup...it's all to do with the right foot of the driver, not the power output of the engine when it comes to tickets... I've been cited for 60 in a 30 with my LUV. The cop didn't have his radar on, so it didn't hold up. Plus, we all know that can't be done in a stock LUV.

I like the idea of sticking with the stock engine, but doing it right. Forged rotating assy, polished head, and the setup Mokadeth's peddling sounds pretty darn good to me (I'm in the middle of that sort of deal with my VW)... of course with an exhaust system to match (lol, maybe even a turbo?). chevyluv1980 sounds like he's done deciding, and the choice looks good.

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6bt uses a different turbo piping that makes more sense to me. Jeep CRD is computer controlled. The easiest thing would be a non electronic engine. All CRD's are computer controlled. Something that uses a Bosch manual pump would be great. You can do a CRD engine, but you would need the whole donor car, and some good electronic skills. Very doable but a big PITA.

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Dr_frankenstein56 makes me want to change my mind about the engine! Beautiful!

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 9:33 am 
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Yeah...looks darn nice! But it's definitely not in my budget range. :(

I was originally contemplating putting in a built GM Quad 4 in my truck - but to buy the stand-alone ignition setup, the custom made bell housing, everything else I would need, and to get an engine built correctly from parts used from all of the various versions of that engine was going to be just way too expensive for me.

(However, when they are built right, they do put out some VERY impressive hp/torque. I have personally seen versions that put out over 500 hp - which is pretty scary to think of that coming out of a little 4 banger in a light-weight Luv.)

But I still think the cheapest/easiest way to go in a 2WD after '75 Luv is with a built/modified 2.6/2.3 hybrid and an Isuzu Pup 5 speed/rear end. Decent running 2.6's are still pretty common and relatively easy to find, and are a reasonably strong/reliable running engine.


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LOL.... well its not in most peoples budgets either, especially mine :lol: .... Ive been slowly building that motor for probably 5 years now. I still have a long way to go. :esurprised

but some day, my orange 76 luv.... will have that engine and hopefully it makes the power i designed for.

for now, my carbed turbo 79 blue luv keeps me happy.

But many thanks for the compliments gentlemen, im usually kinda self conscious about my builds.. there kinda weird so i dont show them too much. Thats what nice about here, there is lots of open minds to alternative engines, I usually get flamed to death on other boards for being a V6.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 8:26 pm 
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As Jerry is looking for the 2.6 and 2.3 engines for me, a question came up. Why use the distributor and intake from the 2.3 liter engine? Also, wouldn't using the 2.3 head boost performance as well? TJ, is this a fairly good list of what I need to get some performance from the engine? My wife wants a list by 01 Jan 2010. I think she's whoring it up or something to get extra money! :lol:

What I will try to get:
2.6 engine
2.3 engine for the:
.............Intake
.............Distributor
.............Ignition Module
.............Maybe the head too
Header
Weber 38/38 Carb
Bigger Cam???
Turbo????

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Luv Truckers are almost as bad as Aircooled VW people.. No Money :lol:

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 2:31 am 
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Why use the distributor and intake from the 2.3 liter engine?


The older 2.3s had a carb intake and a 1 wire ignition setup. The newer 2.6s were injected and require an ecm and necessary wiring that goes with it to run. Using the electronic dist/ign module and intake from the older 2.3 makes the whole conversion a heck of a lot easier.


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from what ive been told you will have issues with the dizzy clearing the firewall.

also i had a thought the other night why not a rotary engine?


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Bringing this one up again. I picked up the 4.3 V6 from Mytmouz and plan on dropping it in the LUV near the end of 2010. Here is where the Mrs get's involved. She has seen the list of parts for it and asked why so expensive. I told her it's a V6 and not as common as a SBC V8 so parts cost more, supply and demand. From what I have researched I can get AND build up a SBC V8 for half to two thirds the price of the V6. She is leaning towards a V8 now saying the money I saved can be used on gas and the gas mileage difference might not be enough to worry about right now. Can I get some ideas on where to get decent V6 parts? Eitehr engine I go with I plan to add the following:

Carburetor
Intake mainifold
Headers
Distributor
Coil
Better cam
Of course all new internals such as bearings, pistons (iff needed), rings, freeze plugs, etc.
The crank will be reused if it checks out OK.

With all of the new stuff and compainies out there, I am having a hard time deciding what woul be the more reasonable way to go. Just too much knowledge and experience here to pass up.
Seems like I have been through this before and oh, in the other thread when I asked if I was being set up? I wasn't being set up, I found out she just finished paying off a Christmas train that cost over $600. :cry: I had to build a display table to set it up on! :x

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first things first, what is the year and model this block came from.

I have a chart to list what can be interchanged in this engine to make assembly cheap and efficent.

But it depends on what year engine you have - the older the better- as thats going to open up the table for V8 interchange.

talk to me brother.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 6:25 pm 
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No friggin idea what year. It came out of an old LUV bought some time back. (The one I sold to Mytmouz). I do have all the cast numbers off of the rear flange. Wouldn't all of the block be the same with differences in the heads? Anyway, the rod bearings are offset from each other in case that helps. If you need anything else off of the engine just let me know. I have it sitting on the workbench for now as I am cleaning up a shed to get rid of a herd of balsa wood eating mice! My poor R/C airplanes are mice fodder! :cry:

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 10:01 pm 
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dr_frankenstein56 wrote:
I love the buick V6 myself, lightweight - ideal location of engine compnents for a resonably easy swap, and fairly easy to find parts for.

All factory turbo parts fit chassis perfectly except for turbo downpipe.

The engine is fairly effiecnt as well, and with proper tuning can live on stock radiator. The buick V6 when treated right is easily capable of 600hp in stock turbo form.

downside.......... way more expensive then a SBC to build for any kind of performance.

A.j.


what if you were doing a swap just simply to have a different drive train than a stock luv setup? speaking in terms of cost. maybe a mild cam in the v6 and a few other bolt ons, but no crazy race setups ....

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Truthfully guys, the engine has little to do with getting any tickets. However your right foot has a lot to do with it. I've owned blown with injection cars and drove them daily on the street, nary a problem with the law. Usually got pulled over as they wanted to see what there was.

A good combonation is the Chevy 4.3 liter V6 with a 7004r od trans. Good power and milage. Lots of performance parts also.


what year 4.3 are you talking about? i had that motor in my old 88 jimmy. but im wanting to go for a clean looking motor and a lot less electrical business going on when i swap my motor. can the 4.3 be carb'd ? i had planned on an sbc 350 but am kinda rethinking and considering the v6 chevy or v6 buick with a 700r4


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