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Talked to Offy Friday afternoon and he gave me the tracking info and informed me that the order was being shipped out. He also let me know that they kept the couple extra that ran over in the run so as to keep it the original amount and if I need them then they can always ship them out or when I need to place another order they can be added in with that. So I should receive the manifolds sometime this coming week. I will post an update when I receive them.

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Please post some pics of one when you get them.

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I did plan on taking some pics when I receive them. You can see a few pics of what I posted in this thread if you go back a page or 2.

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I should be getting the manifolds today. I will post an update when I actually have them and I will try to get some pictures posted when I get a chance. I will PM everyone that wanted one with more details once I get some more shipping info. I hope everyone is excited! I am too, finally after all these months of waiting they are actually going to be here!

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hey do you have me on the list, i fim not can u add me if theres room?
thanx

Yup, you were on my list ugotluv. I received the manifolds today, they are all safely in my garage. I have been busy today and haven't even opened one up yet. Tomorrow I will get organized and see how I am going to ship them and the costs and I will start contacting everyone first who was on my list. There should be plenty though. I will also take some pics and post them here.

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Does someone happen to have a picture of the bottom of a manifold? I just opened one of the boxes to check them out and to take some pictures because I plan on keeping one for my truck and I noticed that the number on the bottom of the manifold is 6203 I sure hope that this was just some sort of misprint, but I have the terrible feeling that the foundry cast the wrong model. I can't call Offy now until Monday. Damn I wish I had opened it up yesterday. After all this time now I fear that I have the wrong manifolds! I am sure they could probably work with an adaptor if they are the wrong ones. I will let everyone know what I find out. Sorry for the delay, I was just about ready to PM everyone to get their address so I could figure out shipping costs. I doubt any of you have your intake off to get me a picture, and I don't expect anyone to take it off just for that, but if someone does happen to have a picture please let me know. I will take a picture of the one I opened up just to let you guys see what I have.

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If it has the egr mountings on the bottom...it's probably the wrong one. The 6203 DP was a manifold that a weber will bolt to but is designed to utilize the stock late 70's smog stuff.




The one we wanted is this one:



The 6204-C that we wanted was the one with weber/holley mountings and was smooth on the bottom with no smog connections.

Good grief...I hope after all this they didn't really screw this all up and cast the wrong ones!

Ok, here is the pics I just took. The top looks just like the 6204-C and CW should look. Not sure about the bottom since I don't have a pic of a 6204 bottom. This bottom looks like the bottom of the 6203. The manifold also came with a bag of bolts and a plate. If you guys can confirm this manifold is ok with just the wrong number, then I would appreciate it. I hope someone has a bottom side picture if this manifold is difrferent than it is supposed to be? I just got to thinking as I am typing this, I wonder if they had the top half casting of a 6204 and the bottom half of a 6203? That would be even more messed up than the right manifolds! Here are the pics...

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So will the 6203 DP still bolt to the 76-80 Stock 1.8L motor?
If it does bolt to the motor, coudn't you just plug the EGR holes?

If this turns out to be some hybrid accident, then I will definitely be contacting Offy to see what we will have to do. The intake still was made for the 1.8, so I am sure there would be a work around with an adaptor or something to plug the smog holes up. Lets see who can post the info we need here to see if the bottom half is indeed the wrong one for the 6204. Like I said in the last post, I just got wondering a few minutes ago after looking at the top half and seeing the wrong number on the bottom half if the foundry didn't mess up the casting halves.

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here maybe this will help, its offys catalog. also has info on flow and with wich came etc etc
http://www.exeterautosupply.com/Docs/Of ... atalog.pdf

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Thanks for that link. There is some additional info pages in there about the adaptor plates. The other pages he sent me were from the catalog and I scanned them and posted in this thread, but this info is extra. The top half appears to be correct, unless that is the top half for the Holley? That we wouldn't know until someone hooked up their Weber to it because they are pretty close, just the bolt holes are a little different. But so far the top half appears to be correct. Is the bottom half? Maybe the bottoms are all the same and this is no big deal? Once I get to the bottom of this I will let everyone know. I will be calling Offy anyway even if these are ok just to let them know what is up.

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The whole point of getting the 6204-CW was to have a better free-flowing intake without the smog connections cast in, and that a weber would bolt right up to.

If you specified that you wanted the 6204-CW version (not the 6203) and that is what all of your paperwork for your order says...then clearly they screwed up big time.

The 6204 is their best high performance intake design for racing/off-road applications, and the CW version is the right one for a weber to bolt up to. The 6203 is a close second, but if it isn't a CW version, then it will probably need an adapter for a weber to bolt on.

But all is not lost folks...

Offy makes a very good non-leaking weber adapter plate (Offy part # 6238) that IMHO is far superior to any other (I'm using one on my truck right now and have personally used every other kind made) so I suppose if they can supply their plates for us, then these manifolds are still very usable. And I agree - designing and making a plate that will bolt on and plug the egr off, or simply threading the egr hole and plugging it off with a brass plug wouldn't be all that hard I guess either.

If there is some kind of a plate and a bunch of bolts with each one they shipped to you, my best guess is that they already included their weber adapter plate, which woud be a definite plus.

If you can post a pic of the plates that they included Moka, I can maybe tell you if they are the right ones.

I personally feel though that regardless of how this whole thing sorts out, these 6203's are still highly marketable, since they are still far superior to using a stock intake. Plus those Luv owners that live in an area where they have to be smog inspected can definitely use these, and smog or no smog - everyone that gets one will certainly enjoy the boost in performance and the higher gas mileage they will undoubtably provide.

I can't wait to see how all of this sorts out...

My thoughts exactly on everything you said Taz. I was thinking the same thing, if for some reason this is a major screw up, I don't think all is lost as there are sure to be some LUV owners out there especially in California that need the smog stuff but would like the upgrade. But still, most of us wanted the 6204-CW which I believe the top half of the casting was correct, but the bottom was the 6203. I will definitely be calling him Monday to explain this and see what we make of all of this. Being they kept the extra couple from the run in case I needed another order down the road, then they have something to look at so they know what I am talking about. I only opened one box up (the box that was numbered 13 unluckily), but I am sure they are probably all identical since they probably didn't just up and change the casting molds midway or something. I really don't want to rip into any more of them if I have to ship them all back. I didn't want to rip into the bag with the parts either, but I was able to take some decent pics of what is in there. I am sure you can be able to tell what is what by the pics. I will let everyone know more when I find out. Sorry again for all of this, I could have got everyone's addresses already so I could figure out shipping costs. If anyone has a pic of the bottom of a 6204 please post it here so we can compare it to the bottom of the ones I received. Here are the pics of the other parts that came with the manifolds.

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Well..the good news from what I can tell by your pics is it looks like they sent all over the vacuum and coolant connections, and the weber adapter plate complete with gaskets, and the necessary bolts and fittings.

That is great news...but it would be nicer if they would have just sent what you ordered. (I know...I know...Duh - Captain Obvious...lol)

I can't wait to read your post about their explanation and what they are going to do about all this.

My best guess from personally dealing with similar stuff like this situation in the past is they will possibly either (a.)ask you to send them all back to be re-cast and reshipped, (b.)offer you a partial refund on these, or (c.)offer you a significant discount on another order of the right ones.

But who knows?

BTW..If you have to send them all back, I'd push them to let you keep all of the hardware and adapters for your trouble, if at all possible. Selling those weber adapters and hardware to the members here that don't want or can't afford a new intake, plus Ebaying the rest, would at least help repay you for your time and inconvenience.

But either way Moka...this has certainly been a helluva adventure for you and your cash. It would seem that you are destined to be Offy's major parts distributor for the G series Isuzu engine, whether you want to be or not...lol But whatever you and Offy decide to do now is your business and I'm sure we'll all support you regardless of how this all gets sorted out.

Now let me just say this to ya:

On behalf of all of us here...let me tell you that we all seriously sure as hell appreciate your tenacity, patience, and determination that you've put forth while going the distance with this litte PITA project.

And if you ever make it up to the pacific northwest...there'll always be a cold beer in the fridge and an extra plate at the table for you at the Tazman's Castle of Clutter...that's for damn sure.

Good luck with Offy brother...give 'em hell for all of us.

I have an exhaust off the truck at my shop it may be what you wanna see not sure yet. I will try to get over there today and get a pic of it and if it is the one, I'll get it on here for ya asap.

Unless it is an Offy 6204 then it won't be what we need to see, but thanks for checking shawunltd. Thanks for the encouraging and kind words Taz. I am really hoping for choice A, send them all back and have the corrrect ones cast. It will take like 6 weeks or so again, but will be worth the wait since we have already waited this long. I am sure they won't screw me over if it was their mistake. Tay has been pretty good with me in all of our conversations. As for all those weber adaptor plates, why are they even there if this manifold was supposed to bolt right up directly? I am not sure if I would be able to keep all of those to sell? I don't want to open up every single box to remove them either. I would like to think that there must be a few people that would be interested in this 6203/6204 mistake manifold since it would work with the smog stuff. I know someone on here was asking if the manifolds would work with the smog stuff, so anyway, maybe I could sell some of these, but probably not all of them. I will let you guys know what I find out when I talk to him. Thanks again for everyone's patience. I honestly believe we will work this all out and eventually we will get the correct manifolds.

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Just from looking at the photos, it looks like they combined the manifolds to be 50 state legal. JMO, it may turn out to not be the case. It should have the CARB exemption, if that's the case.

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FIAA!

SFPP!

I doubt they did this on purpose. Not all states have to have the smog stuff. And like I said in another post, my County doesn't even require the emissions inspection. If it never came with the stuff, then it doesn't need it. My LUV's don't even have a converter. But if it came with one it would have to be there, not have to necessarily work, but have to be there. Being I am expempt from the emissions crap, then probably many other areas are as well. I am sure too if this were the case that they had to make them this way then Offy would have explained that. As you can see in the pics, the bottom half is a 6203. I am betting they cast them with the wrong bottoms. I will find out more when I talk to him. Who knows though, maybe some of you guys that need the smog stuff and would like a Weber might be interested in these things? I will have to see what he says first and go from there.

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