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What happens if you take the torsion bars off and not put on coil over shocks. Are they still driveable or bounce too much or what

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"Can you say fully bottomed out"( and to damn dangerous to even think about driving) no control of suspension what else can i say-- NOT

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1978 pro street step/side 455Buick, 4sp,4.11s, 31/18.5s

The torsion bars are doing what a coil spring does. It's just a different design. You HAVE to have some kind of spring in there. The torsion bars have to keep a little torsion to them or the truck won't be safe to drive, or even controllable.

I will second that when I bought mine it had a terd 350 in it and the torsion bars were already removed. We couldnt resist trying to blow up the motor and doing the one wheel peel before tear down. After a couple of blocks I had had enough you could run over a grasshopper and hit your head on the roof.

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And by winding the adjusters on the torsion bar to lower the suspension you are making the spring softer.



Bob.

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Man, I would love to soften my suspension a bit, but would hate to lose the ground clearance.

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You can pull the bars out and turn them.

Preload is what sets your ride height. The higher you wind them up the more loaded they are. Lowering lessens the preload and makes them softer.

If you change the spline the adjuster is on (or turn the bar a spline in the lower arm) you take it one way or the other.

To do what your wanting to do you would want to be sure youve got some heavy duty big bore shocs up front to keep it under control.


Cheers, Bob.

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Coil overs I go, durn just more money and work. Wonder if those load leveler shocks with springs on them you can buy would be enough support. Probably not.

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No the load leveler shocks wont work. Now for the big question what is wrong with the t-bars that you want to remove them?

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1978 pro street step/side 455Buick, 4sp,4.11s, 31/18.5s

Actually I am just removing weight from the front end and trying to get a better weight transfer to start drag racing it some. Plus I have a set of ceramic block hugger headers to put on and it would be easier to install them I think.

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You are on the right track with weight transfer. but when you put coilovers/mustangII frontend. the front end travel is only 3-4" at best. the torsion bars allow about 6". i have the stock front with travel limiters.(i removed the upper bump stops and use dif length bolt to adj travel) depends on how good the track is hooking all i do is adjust the limit longer limit for a poor hooking track and less for a good hooking track. with a truck you need all the weight tranfer you can get..since there is none back there. with moderate power this is always a problem. guys think that by removing front end weight they should go faster...but now they do not have the front end travel to get the weight(now less because you removed it) to the back and you spin making it slower...

Hmmmm, interesting theory. Thanks

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Need more input . I am reaching the limits of my suspention setup.

I have the torsion bars removed, coil overs, and no limiters in the front on mine. Ladder bars and coil overs on the rear. I have the stock LUV front suspension. Don't know if that's any help to ya.

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FIAA!

SFPP!

This is a good topic. I run coilovers with stock bump stops. I will be measuring my suspension travel.

With the stock front end and only the torsion bars removed with coilovers installed wouldnt the travel be the same?
I am by no mean questioning you QIKLUV(I have seen your vids)
But what stops the travel with coilovers, shocks? or bump stops?

I will be doing some measuring tomorrow.

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I believe it will depend on the length of the coilover.

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yes it is the legth of the coil over that limits the travel.
now the travel limit with the tortion bars (tb) is in direct relation to how far you have lower the vehicle.(which moves the upper a arm further away from the bump stop) remember it hits the upper bump stop to stop travel. remove the bump stop and the mesure the travel again....i know i am probably confusing the hell out of yall.

So by lowering the front of my truck with the torsion bars im adding travel , but how will this effect weight transfer ? I need weight transfer . Traction bars drive the rear tires into the ground only as hard as truck weight will provide . once weight is gone seems like it tries to push the back end up into the air and spin . Did that make sense ?

yes you are adding travel but what you are effectivly doing is giving the weight more momemtum to transfer to the back. you could benefit by going to an aftermarket mono leaf rear with a caltrack/ slapper bar. and try to keep your front end travel as an adjustment tool.... but all these mods could make the street ride iffy. i have seen people have better ride results by using the caltraks other than slapper bars. the next time you go to the track. remove the upper bump stops after you have made a few passes (it gives you 2-1/4" mor travel)...and let me know how it works.

Meaured mine today, had about 4 3/4 inches with the bump stops.
Removed them and have right at 5'' of suspension travel.
Guess that is about all I can do. It does appear that the coilover stops the travel when it is extended all the way.

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