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 Post subject: I need help with a 5.0
PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2003 7:30 pm 
well i got this engine its says 5.0 so i think its a 302 and it came off 2000 explorer with tranny and everything and i pulled it with the fuel injection stuff but its way too many wires for me to connect so i was wondering what do i need to do to make it into carb so i can use it in my luv cuz my 20R is giving me way too many problems so any help will be great and please dont say go chevy i got this engine for free (82,000 miles on engine) this is just so it can drive me around from school and back and maybe so i can get a job somewhere


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 27, 2003 12:45 am 
i woulda said slap a 22R in there since it would bolt right up where the 20R goes, but anyway

if you're gonna carb that thing i say get rid of all the wires and junk, and get a carb intake manifold for it. that should probably be all you'd need to run a carb setup


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 27, 2003 1:43 am 
what about the dist. and stuff?


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 27, 2003 9:36 am 
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Better check with Summit or Jegs to see if that year of 5.0 is able to be carbed or not. Also your tranny is shifted electronically you might need a kit to make it work. Just my two cents.


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 27, 2003 9:38 am 
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You opened pandora's box with that stuff. You need all those wires and stuff to make it all work together. The computer controls everything. Timing, fuel management, airflow, etc. The mass airflow sensor gives a reading to the computer, as does the throttle position sensor. The cpu in turn gives a signal to the injectors, and the coil packs telling them to squirt and fire. It is much more compicated than that, but you get the idea. If you remove the fuel injection, you still have the problem of no distuibutor. They have either 4 or 8 coil packs, and no dist. Hope this helps, but I would try to get the computer, and a good wiring manual with diagrams and hook all the stuff up like it was in the explorer. Later and good luck :wink:

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2003 6:12 pm 
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i go to wyotech. and i just got done with all that stuff. it would be to much trouble. i think on the fords it has sequential injection so the injection runs off of the timing. but the timing is controlled by a few diffrent sensors. and even if u converted to a carb u would still have to deal with the firing. and believe me that stuff can get confusing ur best bet would be to get the computer and just use the fuel injection. besides fuel injection is so much better than a carb n e way. don't take me wrong i like carbs but u get so much more power from fuel injection. and electronic timing is so much better than a dist. n e way so try to convert ur truck instead of the 5 slow.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2003 6:51 pm 
Man, I want your engine, that thing just drops into my ranger. Wish I had something I could trade you for it.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 01, 2004 12:08 am 
i am not totally positive, but from what i have heard from other people, and read in magazines, fuel injection deos not actually make tons more power or anything, it justs smoothes out your power band and gives you a more consitant power delivery, and you can run upside down. but on my project ford, i was thinking of fuel injection for my 351 cleveland (adapted to fit my 72 ford f-100, 4x4, with 9 inch lift and 38.5s) but i decided to go with a demon manual secondaries carb. i think that if you got rid of all of the emissions stuff, and got a new distributer, then it should run on a carb. it may not be correct, but thats my two cents.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 01, 2004 12:31 am 
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You get more power from carbs cheaper. I have always been a carb man, but I am evolving into a fuel injection man. I will soon know the "in's and out's" of isuzu fuel injection. Fuel injection is just more reliable than a carb. It is better for driveability.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 01, 2004 6:05 pm 
carbs are a cheaper way to make street power. IIRC, nascar stock cars are all carbed.

fuel injection is pretty nice though. the only thing i don't like about it is how complex modern systems are, and the fact that most of them are proprietery. i'm hoping to solve this eventually by either converting my toyota 22r motor to a 22re(factory multiport fuel injection), or better yet, getting the weber efi kit when it comes out. the weber kit is going to be a throttle body injection system with a fully programmable ecu and very simple wiring. the kit is going to bolt on to the intake manifold just like a carb. looks like it'll be worth the price :)


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 01, 2004 6:11 pm 
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I helped a buddy of mine put fuel injection on his 70 opel GT. We used the fuel injection off of a 75 opel kadet. The injection is basically a vacuum and mechanical fuel injection setup. It does have a computer, but it is mainly vacuum controled. It was a pain in the ass, but it worked. Now we just have a minor problem with a head gasket.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 01, 2004 11:04 pm 
also, you might want to give painless wiring a shot. they sell a harness for the 5.0, might really help things for you since i'm sure it's standalone...pretty much plug it in and go


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 02, 2004 3:15 am 
im gana go carbed with a c4 tranny or something


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 8:23 pm 
sorry did someone say ford???!!!! :lol: if you want the efi for milage this might be a help http://www.broncofix.com/Tech/efi/Ford% ... Manual.htm i havent read i myself but someone said ford efi was simpler than chevy because it all bolted on in three or four pieces good luck


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