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Has anyone ever put a ford 400 in a luv? if so, anyone got pics?

I've never heard of a 400 from Ford. What is it out of? Is it a big or small block?
Are you speaking of the 390 big block?

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not a real common motor. its in a 1977 mercury. (its a two door, but still a land yacht) I think they were made from 71 till 77 or so. i also think they're in the 335 engine series. (351 modified, and 400) If i remember right, they're based on the 351C block, with a taller deck heigth, and the same bellhousing pattern as a 429/460. Mine now has an Edelbrock Performer intake with a holley 4bbl. Runs pretty good. with money coming in because of christmas, im hoping to get a cam and headers for it.

There was a crew here awhile back that wanted to install a 351W (cop car engine) into a LUV. After doing a little homework and talking to LuvTruck member QCRAZY (Ford 302 powered LUV), they dissolved the project. One of the biggest problems was the engine width. The exhaust ports on the head were too close to the frame so exhaust routing wasn't good at all. And the width caused issues with the steering shaft.
There are other problems with the swap but this was enough to kill their project. QCRAZY has stated many times that his 302 install was a real pain and he wouldn't recommend doing the same thing, but he was so deep that he was commited to follow thru and now he's got a fast LUV that will lift the tires.
I dont know if installing a Mustang II front clip would solve these problems but this may be more than you bargained for.

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Previous setup: 4.1 Buick V-6/TH 350
Current setup: 400 Small Block Chevy V-8/TH 350
9" ford rear end/short bed/blue
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well, i've already gave my 78 luv a Jaguar front end. it's a rack and pinion setup with disc brakes. fits real good. i need to have a steering shaft built, and power steering hoses. and i need a set of factory 17 inch jag rims to clear those huge disc brake calipers. but...i am considering trying to get rid of my LUV's because I need to fix my daily driver- a 87 silverado with a 327. need to get new rear end...[/code]

With a Jag clip, you have got a one-off setup for sure. It looks like you're in a position to tell us if it can be done.

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Previous setup: 4.1 Buick V-6/TH 350
Current setup: 400 Small Block Chevy V-8/TH 350
9" ford rear end/short bed/blue
What do Water, Electricity and Humans have in common... They all travel the path of least resistance.

stay away from the 351m/400 series they dont make any power and there is a very limited supply of aftermarket parts for them. and they are bulky and heavy. if you are insistent on doing a ford swap then stay with the windsor series motors. you can get 351w stroker kits fairly cheap and there ar lots of aftermarket heads and cams available for them.

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My new Hotrod subscription just came in. They did a buildup on a 400. It had aftermarket aluminum heads, small block chevy rods, 340 dodge pistons. It made 500hp & 565 ft lb's of torque. Just something to think about before pursuing the swap.

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I would say stay away from the 351C/400m engine. I think you would get better results from a 351W.

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400m not a good choice even as a last resort.sbc cheaper hp per cubic $/ inch.

Yeah I agree with everyone else stay away from a "F.E." engine. You would be better off staying with a windsor if your going ford.

A SBC would still be the cheapest in the end when compared to weight and horse power from stock you would still be better off.

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1-The 351-400 modifieds are heavy and wide 2- Hot Rod probably didn't say how much it cost to get that kind of power 3-In 1979 a friend of mine spent a wheel barrow full of cash trying to make a 400 make power and my 428 chewed him up on power and fuel milage and never worked up a sweat. 4- If you want to go Ford power then do as the other guys advised and go Windsor and don't worry about getting it to fit as any thing will fit if you work at it.

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you spend the money hotrods 400 ford would have cost in a sbc 400 and you will have a motor that will haul a**. hotrod does those off the wall buildups because they are donated parts and given free machine work.they can say want they want but a working man with kids and bills cannot afford to build most of the motors they say are cheap or they have their houses mortgaged to the max and the credit cards maxed out.. i was reading a back issue where they made 1500 hp on pump gas twin turbo. but how many real world people can afford 3500.00 intake manifolds and 3000. headers. they need to get with it and do a real budget engine build up.

also the 400 is not the f.e series. the f.e are the 330 to 428 engines. 377-429-460 are seperate. and the 221-351w are seperate, the cleveland has the same bellhousing as a windsor but that is all other than that nothing interchanges. 351/400m and 429-460 have the same bellhousing but there again nothing else interchanges.

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74 LUV 355 Bracket Car

WANTED DEAD OR ALIVE 68-74 NOVAS

TOO MUCH IS NOT ENOUGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

When it come to the modifieds can you say turd.

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I worked on a 400M block in college in the motors programs I was in.
The blocks on these are HEAVY!
Lots of cast iron.
I agree that the windsor family is the way to go if you have to Ford a LUV.
My machinist runs a 434 windsor with NOS in his Cougar and has no issues with it at all.

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yeah, i know the 400 is heavy as hell, and not big on h.p., but the thing is that i'm 16, on a budget, and its what i've got. I'm not sure if i'll go through with it yet, but if i do, I'll keep yall up to date on it. by the way, i finished the trans and rear end on my daily driver--- the 87 silverado, so im sure glad about that...

That was the same situation as the 351W crew. That's what they had to work with. The 351 was too far out there for them to make a viable project so they got out of it before they screwed themselves.
This thing created a major issue thru LuvTruck.com. The vast majority of members were supportive to their project but one guy flamed them bad for using a non-GM powerplant. These guys didn't deserve such treatment and it pissed off alot of us that were trying to help them out.
If you elect to proceed with the conversion, there's a ton of us that want to see this work out for you. But since you already have a Jaguar front clip, it kind of leaves us in the dark. Even though we would be flying blind on this, we may be able to throw some ideas your way. And pics of the mod would be very helpful (we like pics).

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Previous setup: 4.1 Buick V-6/TH 350
Current setup: 400 Small Block Chevy V-8/TH 350
9" ford rear end/short bed/blue
What do Water, Electricity and Humans have in common... They all travel the path of least resistance.

i'll try to get pics as soon as i can. which may be a while. but thanks, man.

Let's make one thing clear, our LUV's are not Chevy's, they are Isuzu's. I think that if any one comes here and needs help with any make of engine we need to help. If you have a 400m running and that is what you have to work with then get out a shoe horn and start fitting it.

I know I for one am running lots of non-Chevy parts. Ford 9" rear end etc.

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There were some cool engineers back when i worked at Learjet. One of the engineers stated to me once, "With enough time, engineering, material and tooling, anything can be made to work". The only question is "will it be worthwhile".
A 400 with a Jag clip conversion is one-off for sure. I'm also thinking of the size of the transmission. Will the trans tunnel need major mods?

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Previous setup: 4.1 Buick V-6/TH 350
Current setup: 400 Small Block Chevy V-8/TH 350
9" ford rear end/short bed/blue
What do Water, Electricity and Humans have in common... They all travel the path of least resistance.