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 Post subject: torsion bar question
PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 8:45 am 
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i want to ditch the torsion bars but what i havent figured is what to do with the back side of the lower control arms. iam guessing that something needs to be put back but as far as what is the problem? after i get that problem solved ill do the coilovers and the areospace brakes. now my other question is for the guys that put in the v-8s that live in a smog check city, how in the world are you getting away with out running smog pump and cats??? i have found some hooker headers that have emmissions tube bungs that i think i can use. but id rather not
i kinda like making my own headers. thanks for all the help.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 9:36 am 
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A lot of us live in states that don't require too much emission checks. In Texas if you don't live in one of the VERY large metropolitan areas, there are no tail pipe checks. I still don't know how people with '90s up can change engines and get away with it. I know I had a 85 GMC with a built up small block and no emissions stuff, and the state inspector stations never batted a eve at it.

Depends on what state you live in and where in the state sometimes.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 3:13 pm 
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whats up and welcome to the luv world. what year is your luv and where do you live.? and I might have an answer to your torsion promblem but I get back to you on that.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 11:39 pm 
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there are post where other members have instaled the coilovers. (i dont know how to add the links, in right. but they're on page 2). I want to lose my torsion bars as well but with bags. as far as i know you have to modify the shock mount for the coilovers to fit in and leave the front strut rod in. if you want you can add another link on the back side of the control arm many have done that but they remove the front strut rod .http://www.minitruckinweb.com/construct ... to_06.html he picture is on the minitruck web site. I cant figure out how to add the picture either sorry. but its that link on the bottom. I'll try o add the picture in later. sorry if its confusing and hope some one could simplize.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 2:57 am 
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im in arizona, outside phoenix. my trucks a 75 that had full emmision equipment from the factory, when i got it some idiot was trying to do a 3.8 buick swap. he just gave me the truck after i explained to him the motor was a computer controlled engine "just the carb and distributer" so i sold off the motor and was going to do a v-8 but i got a hold of a 94 4.3 instead, and i am bored with it already its a strong motor but im greedy and i want mo power!!!!! the reason i was asking about the emmisions equipment was i have seen a few luvs and vega's running around all hopped up but no smog junk,, i have tried to talk with the people at the test stations but they are not to bright and just tell me that i have to have all the equipment. but that stuff isnt much of a problem, removeing it is easy to do. but the torsion bar deal is my main concern i dont need the front end falling out on me and i want to do it right. my dad wanted me to bag the whole truck but thats a big project and i would rather have coils in the front with leafs and slapper bars on the rear.. so any help on this would be appreciated.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 7:08 am 
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i know in texas after so many years (20 or 25) they only do a safety inspection....seat belts,lights,blinkers...etc.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 2:17 pm 
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talk to the state reffery there the ones that will be the final answer. im in california and the the reff I talk too said that I needed all the smog stuff buts thats with the 1987 s-10 i had. I own a 1975 luv and dont have to smog it. so i can do as I please with, so i dont understand why you have to smog it. But as long as the motor is a 75 and newer v8 and the same make as the truck you should be fine but still have to have the smog parts. I have seen toyotas and nissans with chevy v8 and are smog legal. thats what I dont get because there even here in california. so talk to the state reff about that. the smog shop guys really cant tell you anything about those kinda swaps because they cant smog them without that plate sor sticker that the state gives you when it passes his inspection. so I hope this helps some what.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 9:11 pm 
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i see exactly what you are explaining, im going to look into it further as far as going above the emission station maybe i can get the truck smog exempt.? i know why i failed last year bad carb and bad catalitic converters, i passed the year before only because the guy running the load test run the crap outta my truck, which was funny i had wished i had videoed that one, truck was doing a nice dance under load, i had read up on something that arizona was going to pass it off like california every year that a year older would become smog exempt. but i havent heard much on that so ill just keep plugging away by buying new cats and running the plumbing for the smog pump for the new motor..

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 10:00 pm 
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I would run catalytic converters if I had to. I don't know how good they would work. I think EGR's were a waste, They would just stop up or freeze open or closed. Some places made a lot money selling EGR block, opps test plates, and no shops would install those. :lol: . I never liked smog pumps.

EGR's cause a lot of problems on VW TDI engines. Just like Mercedes soot filters. Crank up those pumps Boys!!!!
I saw one of my fellow Texas Scirocco Team Image members pass the tailpipe test by running some liquid tune up- smog stuff in his tank... It passed. He emailed us all the test numbers, big difference. He lived in the Dallas Metro area when they started the tail pipe test.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 7:00 am 
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well running all the smog equipment doesnt really bother me to much, your right there papa the egr is a joke and a power robber. the one i have lasted a year before it puked out, if the state didnt require me to run and egr i would go back with my little edelbrock intake manifold boy i sure miss it...... anyways have i put my torsion bar question in the wrong spot because im getting no responses????? and i have tried a search on the subject and got nothin as far as what im trying to do...

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 12:55 pm 
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If your putting a V8 in why not use a freshly rebuilt tuneport and a 4 speed auto and it would be a sweet reliable truck that would breeze thru a smog test.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 4:07 pm 
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well i have the motor i would like to use, and i found long tube headers that have the smog tubes in them, so that saved me some troubles, but fuel injection is nice just cant really afford it right at this time. besides that i can get more power from a carb anyday. this is why i like chevys so much because later on i can do a switch to fuel injection. now i though about this a long time ago i was really wanting to do a ls series swap but someone beat me to it. anyhow i can still do that later on. and as far as using an automatic tranny i kinda always though that would be a good idea so that anyone could drive it. but i dont see that happening anytime soon and i really like ripping gears barking tires and all that, and i will never get rid of my luv somebody will just have to bury my ass in it...

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 11:49 pm 
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ya it sucks when some one beats you to a Idea. but that happen to every one, me as well. Im a fan of fuel injection, more relyable i think. plus I hate carbs. I too have a LS1 motor and will some day put it in. or the LT1 or 350 tpi that I have. what ever is cheapest. so no matter what we try to do some one is thinking the same thing we are. (GET OUT OF MY HEAD!!!!!!! :smt089 :smt010 ). ha!. but do whats easyiest and cheaper cause we're not getting any richer. and make sure your going to keep the truck, I made the mistake of getting rid of my last to trucks, yes sad days when I think of it. So my luv is not going anywhere. well keep us posted on the build and pics so we can :shocked!: at it. and I'll try to post some on mine, I've been laging on it.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 9:23 am 
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your right tpi would be nice for economy, i had the chance to pick up a camero tpi intake manifold but passed it up(stupid me) but the nice thing is i can change it out later, i wouldnt mind doing a ramjet fuel injection but i dont think they have a egr valve. im pretty sure i could get a holley projection kit or an edelbrock kit. but like i was saying fuel injection isnt in my budget at this time, and having fuel injection would mess with the people at the emmisions stations. my sister wants me to run one of those rons flying toilets, but i know those are just for racing only. anyhow ill get some batterys for the digital camera when i can and get the build up filmed. should be intresting since im considering a tilt front end, should make motor fitment easier...


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 10:01 am 
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has anyone done an LS7 yet????

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an lsx block would be cool but no ls7's to my knowledge

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 10:14 am 
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Start looking.


One of them should pass emissions.


Would pass a lot of things. lol.


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yeah well since im dreaming hows about a twin turbo ls7?? bet it will pass everything but a gas station

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 9:26 pm 
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Just completly remove all the torsion bar stuff. You can trim the collar on the lower control arm if you have to in order to clear the long tube headers. The coilovers will go right in the stock shock location.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 5:47 am 
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First off don't just let anybody drive your V8 Luv . They are a hand full and an inexperienced driver will hurt themselves in it . Not to mention alot of hard work down the drain .

Second , I had a Jeep CJ with a 258 that i did a tbi injection on and it passed the smog test in the middle of all the numbers . That was with no cat . It would not pass a visual inspection , but i kinda bet the inspector , "if it passes the sniff will you put a sticker on it?" He said if it was clean he would . I just used the same guy every year .

LS motors are cool and are getting put in everything nowadays .


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