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I think I've finally figured out what motor/trans combo I want to take on. It looks like I am going to go with the g200/180 hybrid and the 5 speed. the only thing I dont know is, which vehicles to get these parts from. I need the g200 engine and a 5 speed. If i read it right I can get the engine from an impulse, but which years? I think the trans had to come from a trooper, but again which years. I'm tryinig to lay all this into an 80' longbed that is going on bags. If I have the pockets I'm going to go with a turbo version of the motor, as the inspection laws here in NC say I need to keep the engine in the vehicle that it came with. At least they didnt say anything about power adders..........

For an 80 LUV, look for a 5 speed in a 2WD pickup, 84-87 with a G200, or you might look at pickups up to 93 or so with the 2.3L 4ZD1. Those are your choices for a 5 Speed with a cable clutch setup like what you'll find in an 80. You could look at 83-89 Impulses for the trans, but they are hydro clutch, so you'd need to swap all the hydro clutch parts from a 76-77 LUV including the bracket under the dash the pedals hang off. All Troopers are 4x4, so unless that is your goal stick to pickups.

For the motor, 84-87 pickups or 84-85 troopers will have a G200 in carb'd form, or you could find a FI G200 in Impulses from 83-87. The Imp motor has a bit higher compression ratio so it will give better performance, although if you want to run a turbo with a lot of boost you might want to stick to the motor found in trucks. The difference will not be that noticable if you keep it carb or just FI, but if you get detonation with the turbo because of too much compression things will break pretty fast.

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77 LUV 2wd stock beltway blaster (resting)
79 4x4 LUV project: 2.6L, 5spd, 31s (eventually)

MEPR: Man, my 4x4 makes all other LUVs look good

exactly what I was looking for. I know a lot of these parts are interchangable, and I didnt want to waste a bunch of time and money getting parts that werent gonna work or werent worth the effort. Thanks for the insight..........

Darrell

By pickup, you mean the pups right?

Yep, well I also mean pickups after they dropped the P'uP name, at least when talking transmissions. I believe they quit calling them pups right around the time they switched away from using the G200 motor in them.

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95 Isuzu Trooper Daily Driver
86 Isuzu Trooper reliable backup
77 LUV 2wd stock beltway blaster (resting)
79 4x4 LUV project: 2.6L, 5spd, 31s (eventually)

MEPR: Man, my 4x4 makes all other LUVs look good

All the isuzu motors smaller than the 2.6L had the MSG series manual boxes behind them.

Theres two different sorts. The earlier ones had a small output size and there are two differen splines, fine and corse.

The later MSG box had a larger output, these were behind the 2.3L and in the Impulse (turbo and 2.3L moslikely not the G200). Its the same size as the ouput on a 4x4 box. I believe the universals are the same as a luv too.

If you want a stronger box i suggest you get one from behind a 2.6L (called MUA), the box is bigger but the same in all the bits that matter Bellhousing and length and mount etc. It has the same larger output as the MSG behind the 2.3 but has a remote shifter that mounted further back than the stright in the top of the box type stick.
This box is setup for a hydraulic clutch.
I am also told that the T5 was used behind the 2.6L motors over your way.


The MSG box in the Impulse is hydraulic clutch as mentioned in the post above. It should have the provision in the bellhousing to remove the Hydraulic fork piviot and fit in the mechanical pull type cable clutch setup.


Cheers, Bob.

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