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PostPosted: Mon Nov 17, 2003 1:08 pm 
Drove my 80 LUV home the other night, shut off the engine/ignition, but the alternator, regulator, and heater fan all remained "hot." Unhooked the battery and went to bed. Now, even with the ignition switch removed, the heater fan runs, the regulator "clicks" and power is applied to the alternator. The truck won't start if I re-hook everything, but it does turn over. Any ideas?? Many thanks - Randy in Denver


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 17, 2003 1:30 pm 
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Sounds like a strange short somewhere. It could also be the alternator or the regulator. The heater fan runs only when the motor is turning by means of a relay that runs off the regulator to tell if the alternator is charging. Fuel pump runs the same way, and may be the source of your trouble starting. (Either running all the time and a leaky needle valve has the motor flooded with gas, or not running and not getting any gas)

I had a short in the wiring on one of my LUVs that puzzled me for a couple days. The main wire to the alternator from the battery had gotten hot sometime before I owned the truck and melted the insulation. It finally shorted to something else in the harness and I had a truck that would not shut off with the key. Motor running, turn off the key, motor still running. I finally tracked it down to a a short between the alternator wire to the bat and a wire to the switch for the backup lights. The backup lights were not on, but it was back feeding the ignition and coil from there so the key could do nothing to turn it off.

If you see any signs of burnt or melted wires, start peeling open the harness and tracing stuff. That main black wire to the alternator seems to be the most likely suspect since it is hot all the time and prone to getting cooked. I still think in my gut that the regulator is the real source, or a diode in the alt., but both are more expensive to replace. A lot of parts/battery shops will test them for free though, just be careful of them trying hard to sell you a new part. Take the parts off the truck, bring them in, and say "something just ain't right". Let them diagnose the parts only, not the rest of your symptoms.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 17, 2003 4:05 pm 
Hey man, I know exactly what its like to have an electrically challanged LUV. Although I've never heard of that happening before, with a LUV, I believe it. What I would do is grab a multimeter and start poking away at things. I agree with 800xl to check on shorts cause thats what it sounds like. In addition, you might want to make sure there isn't something crossing at the level of the fusebox. I know that I've made that suggestion to a bunch of LUV people having electrical problems but believe me it makes a difference.

You should find that the LUV has 3 switched and 2-3 always hot leads on the fusebox. At the very least before you start doing anything else, disconnect the battery and remove all the wires from the fusebox. Take a wire brush to the connectors underneath and bring it down to bare metal. Check the wires for any missing insulation or anything that might be crossing over to accidentally make one of the "switched" busses an "always hot" bus.

Finally, the regulator in the LUV is an electro-mechanical one if I'm not mistaken. That theoretically means it has moving parts inside and is as prone to wear as any points-type ignition would be. If you haven't replaced it yourself and don't know if the previous owner did, then you might want to do that too. Hope that helps... let me know how it all turns out.


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