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Sooo, changed the plugs, oil wires fuel filter, new gaskets on carb, Timing at 6 deg and idle is at like 950~1000. A little hard to start the Luv, have to hold the gas down. till it warms up, Once Warm It idles beautiful. Once driving tho, it starts missing at like 50 mph(dunno rpms cuz no tach) but in 4th it must be like 3000~4000 Umm, what can it be?? I leaned the float a little so now the fuel is at the bottom of the circle still touching the circle. Is it missing fuel, is it points or something. Does anyone have any clues, I am at a loss.

Sounds like fuel starving to me. The fuel level should be right in the middle of the glass on the bowl so that could have something to do with it, but I bet there is something else going on too. Low fuel flow somewhere along the line or something like that.

You should be able to duplicate the effect in any gear, just get the RPMs high enough for long enough. First place to start would be fuel filter, then the pump, then the lines between the pump and the carb. There is a filter in one end of the fuel pump that can clog up to look at too. Change out the filter, unhook all the lines and blow them out back towards the tank with air. Take off the fuel cap and blow some into the tank too. And, see if you can get the float adjusted to put the fuel level right in the middle of the glass.

Points can mimic the same symptoms too, so you should at least check them. They are only good for about 10-15k miles or so, though it depends sometimes they will go a lot farther.

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95 Isuzu Trooper Daily Driver
86 Isuzu Trooper reliable backup
77 LUV 2wd stock beltway blaster (resting)
79 4x4 LUV project: 2.6L, 5spd, 31s (eventually)

MEPR: Man, my 4x4 makes all other LUVs look good

I jsu twent through the same thing started trouble shooting by replaceing everything. Eventually found out there was crap in my fuel tank.

gonna lower the tank, change out more fuel line and take out the fuel pump and look at it. Isuzu Dizzy is coming on friday, that should eliminate the points.
Funny story, Guy at Autozone was so disgusting to look at(not in a gay way but more like a how is he alive way) like he was a mouth breather with the enthusiasm of a three toed sloth, so i bought the dizzy cap and picked it up, but left without checking in an effort not to go wild on this slob behind the counter and mess up my karma(last thing i need right now) and when i got home i looked at. It looked like this


Soo seeing as i don't have an extra geo anywhere... i went to go get a new one. Why must we continue this love hate relationship Oh LUV of mine...

Thanks for the info guys, i'm so lost with this carburated stuff but i guess the general things apply right
you need fuel, air, and spark, I got the spark, the air and i guess some fuel

At idle, you don't need much fuel a lil drip will do...
At Cold Start and High Rpm, need much more fuel a little drip won't do right??

Scary LUV inhabitants, is this a warning or a taunt of nature ??


BLACK WIDOWS!!!!!!!!

quik Q, if the dwell angle(on the meter is good) can the points still be bad??

If you get bit by a third black widow, it'll make your LUV go faster, cuz you'll be on yer way to the hospital!!!!! LOL

Hold yer breath until you get yer new dizzy. It made all the difference to mine. And get the right cap!!!

I feel sorry for the old lady.

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'78 1.8L 4-speed Fleetside

The only thing more beautiful than a sunset is a sunrise.

Old Lady Is understanding, lol i just got to get this thing running cuz i'm leaving to the sandbox soon, oy, hate to leave it in this condition

Celebratory(<-- that a word??) Cup of joe.
first off, thanks to those that have the patience to read my verbose posts lol.
And Excuse my ignorance, (i make up for it with resolve, i think)

Dismantled Fuel Pump, Took little Clip off of solenoid pump looking thingy gave it twelve volts shot everything against head and garage wall, have a talk with the holy virgin Mary under my breath while i looked for everything, brushed the filter inside the pump with an All purpose brush put it back together Changed the hoses, cleaned the fuses!!! and crank crank crank... nothing..
Checked continuity b/w Fuse box and relay and had power sooo relay must be crap right..
so took it apart


Looks good things click with the ignition and head scratching commences....
Go back and check fuel pump, forgot to plug in + lead on pump Doh!!
Jumped the lead and the pump pumps, at least it makes noise at this point.

Unplug the lines and There is no fuel Dry as a bone!!
What the hell.
Moral of the story is.
Did you know you have to prime the Fuel Pump so that it Pumps Fuel.
That solved back to the starter trigger and Vrooom Starts right up, Like a beaut... I musta killed the gremlin Somewhere along the line...

Relay stays clicked while running.
But still running roough at high RPMS Must be timing/points cuz the Fuel pump is pumping as my siphoning tool(Mouth) can attest.
Am i right on this assumption????

well, i thoughts my points were fine but after i got sooo pissed off that i said, u know what luv i'm gonna cut your points off and viola, this is what i found..



I don't think that these are in their best shape....

any reason to learn the ancient art of Points.

Aren't i supposed to have dual points and a coasting solenoid on my carb, am i an early 1979 LUV??

Yeah points are a pain, and inefficient too. You'll be happy you went electronic.

There are black widows like ants up here, I've killed more in the past month than I care to think about...

I'm pretty sure the photo of your distributor cap is for a SAAB . Yep, they had 3 bangers in the early years. Two-stroke even.

http://www.saabnet.com/tsn/press/060929.html

Anyway, keep up the pics and the posts. I enjoy watching you work through this stuff.

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Dual points were on the 72-74 trucks. Yours look pretty bad, and pretty much impossible to gap correctly with a feeler gauge. Every 5000 miles or so my 76 used to eat them up just about like that, a buildup on one side and a divot on the other. More than once I spent a good half hour beside the road gapping and regapping by eye until I got them close enough to get me home or to the parts store.

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95 Isuzu Trooper Daily Driver
86 Isuzu Trooper reliable backup
77 LUV 2wd stock beltway blaster (resting)
79 4x4 LUV project: 2.6L, 5spd, 31s (eventually)

MEPR: Man, my 4x4 makes all other LUVs look good

HEI Dizzy going in!!!!!

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If you think no one cares, try missing a couple of payments...



FIAA!

SFPP!

Is it in? Maybe I could help...

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'78 1.8L 4-speed Fleetside

The only thing more beautiful than a sunset is a sunrise.

It went in... but i don'tknow if i did it right, maybe there is no such thing as foolproof


old stuff

same hole

new stuff

its in

Connected the positive wire for the dizzy to the + side of the coil right??
Is this what i did wrong

This the new stuff in, new batt cables, hold down hardware and dizzy

Started it up but idle rpms were way off as was the timing, adjusted both, idles fine now, idles beatifully.

NOW I need the help of the greatest LUV wiz available.
NEW plugs, New Wires, NEW Dizzy(HEI), New Fuel Filter, New Gaskets on Carb, New Valve Cover(rocker arm cover) Gasket, Valves adjusted, NEW Smog Pump(Old one made a deafning whine), new belts, ALL creative electrical wiring rectified/removed, Black Widows are dead, Fuel Pump is pumping Lots of Fuel, Float is in middle of window, New fuel Lines, New Vac lines, New t's for vac lines, New Coolant hoses, Clean radiator, New Oil, New Oil Filter. Just missing the fuzzy dice Buuuuut it does this...

Starts, as I accelerate the engine with no load or load it vibrates a lot are these the signs of a clogged jet or something. What is in charge of fuel as the engine accelerates?? And the clutch is stupid now too. Man This LUV is making me broke
I don't know if it is only on a cold start, but it splatered really wet black stuff from the exhaust onto my garage wall. I am soo close to like full blown depression cuz of this little guy, i even got mad at my bimmer. Anyone want to be commisioned as troubleshooter for the LUV. I got so much other stuff i should be doing before i leave that I just might turn it over the the local greasemonkey and pray for the best(at least a grease monkey with guarantee).
The LUV won't Go over 40-45 now.

Any ideas on the stalling hesitating. Like i said, the lines are clear, fuel pump is pumping lotsa fuel, float is in the middle and Dizzy is Brand New. Could it be the coil?? anyway to check that thing

Have to get it all, sorry if you're broke, but so am I. I rebuilt my engine from the short block up. I had the block line-bored, honed, and resurfaced. The head was resurfaced. Both parts were pressure-checked, and cleaned. The valves were re-faced and new stem seals put in. Hey, I got new pistons, and new molychrome rings. I'm not smoking, or spitting anything. I would take out the plugs and see if they're wet or fouled. This could tell you the valves need attention, or even the rings could be stuck or broken. If you run a compression check you may learn more. Have you adjusted the valves? Make sure you know what you're doing and ask questions if you need to know. Anything.

Be sure you got the wires on the dizzy in the correct firing order, 1-3-4-2, counter-clockwise.

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'78 1.8L 4-speed Fleetside

The only thing more beautiful than a sunset is a sunrise.

just curious if you took a fuel sample when you replaced the lines to see if there is anything like water or rust in the fuel tank.

Muffler isnt clogged is it?

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umm funny you should ask, yes the fuel taste good... in changing the lines to the fuel pump, it looked good, at least what was getting to the pump.

I remember mine used to splatter the black crap on the driveway when it was a 4-cyl so I think that's normal.

It sure sounds like the firing order is wrong, but since you checked that I'd start looking toward internal problems. A compression check would be helpful.