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PostPosted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 11:11 am 
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so as i see from it it goes the fuel filter then pump? i im not getting fuel to the carb to keep it running but i pour it straight down the carb itll start i pulled the line off the pump and its pumping but i pulled it off the filter which is behind the pump im guessing and notheing? any ideas


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 Post subject: Re: fuel system
PostPosted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 11:28 am 
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Pull the fuel supply line from the cab to see if the pump is getting fuel that far. If it is then the fuel pressure is too low or something within the carb is stopping the fuel.
Without knowing what vehicle/engine/carb/pump you are working on it's hard to diagnose any further.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 11:33 am 
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its a chevy luv 4x4 with the 1.8 ltr with idk the pump or anything


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 6:22 pm 
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If the system is stock, fuel is pulled through the filter on the left frame rail, then through the pump and on to the carb.
Stock pump also has a filter inside. Remove the end of the fuel pump and out pops a filter. I'm assuming the stock fuel pump because I don't know what you have.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 7:38 am 
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You said you had pulled the line from the pump & it was pumping, so was it an electric pump mounted on the frame crossmember just about under the driver's seat? If so then that is a stock setup. The question now is how did you power the pump to test it, since the ignition must be in start mode or the engine running before the fuel pump relay will supply power to the pump?
The truck runs when fuel is poured through the carb, so you need to start at one end of the fuel supply system and find where the flow stops.
Get a long enough piece of insulated wire to reach from the battery to the fuel pump plus another piece at least three feet long & four small alligator clips to make a long jumper wire & a short jumper wire, each with a clip on each end. First change the fuel filter, they're cheap and that will eliminate a dirty filter. While the filter is off blow through the fuel line towards the tank to make sure it's clear. You should also be able to hear the fuel bubble in the tank. Next clip one end of the long jumper to the electrical connection on the fuel pump, then remove the rubber fuel supply hose from the carb and stick it into a container to catch any fuel. Now attach one end of the short jumper to the positive battery post- don't allow the other end to contact anything- then away from the battery connect the two loose jumper ends together. Disconnect the jumper ends away from the battery after a bit. If you get a strong steady fuel steam into the container the problem is either within the carb or is electrical. If you get a weak or no fuel stream then it's probably the pump. Leave the fuel line disconnected from the carb, remove the jumper wires & test the pump.
To test the pump-
Hook one end of the long jumper to the positive battery post- don't accidentally touch the other end to anything. Hook one end of the short jumper to the electrical connection on the fuel pump, extend the other end away from the pump. Pull the rubber hose from the hard fuel line on the carb side of the pump and stick the end into a container to catch any fuel. Now well away from the pump and container connect the two loose ends of the long & short jumper wires. The fuel pump should immediately start to run. There should be a steady stream of fuel the size of the line with a bit of pressure into the container. After running the pump run for a bit break the connection away from the pump & remove the jumpers. The pump should be very quiet with a very slight vibration. If the fuel flow seems weak or the pump is very noisy or you can feel it thumping the pump is either full of dirt or failing or both. You maybe can clean the internal pump filter, if that doesn't work replace the pump. An aftermarket 4-7psi pump is fine, they are $50-$60.
While the supply line is loose at the carb & pump ends blow through it to make sure there is no blockage. Re-connect everything, you should now have fuel to the carb, you can test as before if needed.
If you have good fuel to the carb but it still won't run you can bypass the pump relay by jumpering the pump as before while trying to start the truck. If it starts & runs only with the pump relay bypassed replace the relay.
If you have eliminated e carb report back here, there are still some things to try.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 11:02 am 
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Another tip. If in fact you find the pumps internal filter plugged and want to replace it, and the auto parts place says it is not listed available? Ask for a filter for a Datsun 240Z as they used the same one.


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