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 Post subject: R1 Carbs on G200
PostPosted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 11:54 pm 
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a little more work started...hard to work on it when i have customers cars that come first... just an idea on how it is going... still need to trim down the runners and add the water jacket...
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PostPosted: Wed May 05, 2010 2:55 pm 
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that is an awesome idea i never even thought of using a quad crotchrocket carb 8O !
i have been thinking about making a custom intake for dual stock 1980 LUV carbs since i have an extra engine sitting around and then boring the other block and machining head while i have it taken apart.
do you happen to have any tips on making the setup for multi-carb use? just have one carb feed 2 cylinders or try to rig both of them to run all four togather :?:

props on coming up with the R1 carb setup keep it updated on how it turns out and what kind of power gain you get

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i think you are the guy on portlands craigslist i sent an email to? if so let me know... here are some of the other setups i have tried...

weber 32/36
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solex 40 duel side drafts.
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holy crap yeah about the 80 luv motor?

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well i have the parts you need... call me i sent you the email with my phone number... come by take a look, i may have a few things i would like fabed up...

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hey cat, just so i understand, they are yamaha carbs isnt that right?

if you do end up making a custom intake for that, what would your selling price be? i might take a stab at this if it works out for you

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That is some bad ass stuff your got there, any vid yet of the installation?

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I like the way those old side drafts sound. Always knew when one was coming down the street in high school. 8)

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no videos as i am still working on the carb intake... trying to get one made so i can take it to a cnc shop and see what it would run to have made in set of about 10 to try and keep $$$ down... yes they are Yamaha bike carbs

here is the only video i have of the duel side draft carbs ...

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and here is a properly tuned one

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Nice vids

Do you have an estimated price yet on those m/c carbs yet?

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i think about $250/300 for the intake... if you wanted to get rid of the dizzy and go EDIS like in the pics add another $350 and that would be with the stand alone computer box ....but it would not be needed to run the carbs...
the carbs you would get on your own , i see them go from $20 to $150 on ebay

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Have you done any other carbs? I may stay away from the electronics. How much trouble are the electronis to run? How much more are the electronics beside the box? Or maybe start there, where do you find out about EDIS for this motor? Do you have an EDIS kit including all the parts needed for sale?

I may try Mikuni RS Smoothbore Carburetors, would they bolt up to the manifold your making?

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Thanks, I'm still just tire kicking, but will be keeping an eyeout for some of these parts at the swapmeets and classifieds.

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this is my first attempt with bike carbs... most places recommend the R1 carbs so that what i started with... when i first herd about bike cars i wanted to use the smooth bore but they are allot more $$$... The EDIS kits are just about one size fits all as long as it is 4, 6, 8 cylinder specific... the electronics i will be using is to adjust the timing or curve of the timing , so it is allot easier then if i tried to run fuel injected R1 carbs ... that may be the next one i try.... the electronics for the timing is about $160 but for fuel and timing they run about $450... i dont have all the parts yet as i am still trying to get the kit together and working before i sell them to make sure all works well and have a good base map to down load to a laptop for the EDIS and electronics... not sure if they will bolt up... the intake will be made for 40mm carbs but the spacing may be off and you would have to separate the carbs to fit the intake... all this info i have found on the net just by looking and reading about bike carbs...i wanted to try this a couple years ago but a guy in Sutherland that does this to British cars said it wouldn't work and not to try it on my truck as it would be way to hard to do... so i listened to him... but over the last few years i keep seeing things pop up and did more research... i think the guy was just trying to keep me away and all info to himself... here is a good place to start...
http://www.totalvauxhall.co.uk/resource ... h60697.pdf

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this is my first attempt with bike carbs... most places recommend the R1 carbs so that what i started with... when i first herd about bike cars i wanted to use the smooth bore but they are allot more $$$... The EDIS kits are just about one size fits all as long as it is 4, 6, 8 cylinder specific... the electronics i will be using is to adjust the timing or curve of the timing , so it is allot easier then if i tried to run fuel injected R1 carbs ... that may be the next one i try.... the electronics for the timing is about $160 but for fuel and timing they run about $450... i dont have all the parts yet as i am still trying to get the kit together and working before i sell them to make sure all works well and have a good base map to down load to a laptop for the EDIS and electronics... not sure if they will bolt up... the intake will be made for 40mm carbs but the spacing may be off and you would have to separate the carbs to fit the intake... all this info i have found on the net just by looking and reading about bike carbs...i wanted to try this a couple years ago but a guy in Sutherland that does this to British cars said it wouldn't work and not to try it on my truck as it would be way to hard to do... so i listened to him... but over the last few years i keep seeing things pop up and did more research... i think the guy was just trying to keep me away and all info to himself... here is a good place to start...
http://www.totalvauxhall.co.uk/resource ... h60697.pdf



I think your on to something here.

Bikes get as big as 1400 stock now. In the past it took a big block kit, but the Mikuni's didn't have trouble feeding those motors at 10,000 rpm.

If I'm not mistaken a LUV is 1800 so it would not be over carbed at all. My experience with motorcycle carbs is that they are very tunable from idle to mid throttle to WOT so making them work would be just a matter of time and tuning.

Most of the time I hear it does not work means the person your talking to has not been able to make them work or even try to make them work or like you said, he was trying to steer you in the wrong direction.

IMO-Once you make the mainfold, getting other carbs to fit will be just cutting and fitting since motorcycle carbs run those rubber mainfold seals. The hardest part seem the mainfold. So when you get one done, I'm interested in buying one, thanks.

BTW where do you get the EDIS kits? For @ $160 I think I start there.

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EDIS kits on ebay run about $75/$80 for a complete one like in my pics...

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EDIS kits on ebay run about $75/$80 for a complete one like in my pics...


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Hey I work at a machine shop that does small orders and quick turns. I know that we are not the cheapest but we can do anything that you can throw at us. http://www.davistl.com/


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Codym wrote:
Hey I work at a machine shop that does small orders and quick turns. I know that we are not the cheapest but we can do anything that you can throw at us. http://www.davistl.com/


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Codym wrote:
Hey I work at a machine shop that does small orders and quick turns. I know that we are not the cheapest but we can do anything that you can throw at us. http://www.davistl.com/


see if you can get me a quote off the info here, let me know... there was a guy on a vw forum (can not find again) that had his made in portland for around $200 so i hope that's you guys...

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