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i have a really bad oil leak and i just got a new gasket to replace on my oil pan, but i just read the repair manual and it said on 4x4,s i have to remove the engine to get the oil pan off. but then it goes on to give directions if the engine is still in.???? but it doesnt give installation directions. normally it just said installation is the opposite of removal. is this different cause the engine is supose to be gone? and can i do it with out the engine being gone. i no it sounds like a stupid question, but im kinda new to my new luv.
~M

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~M

Because of the front axel in a 4X4, it is necessary to pull the engine to access the pan.

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I read the other thread you have about the lack of power. Have a compression test done before you pull the engine to install the gasket, that way, if you need to make other repairs, the engine will already be out. Also, inspect the clutch assembly at this time. You have to pull the engine to install the clutch also. Good luck...

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I had to always remove mine. You have to remove it to replace the timing chain... Same reason.

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oh my that was a long task! i didnt get the replies till after i took all the screws off the pan. needless to say i worked my butt off getting that gasket on that pan without removing the engine. it took hours! i wish i would have been patient and waited for the reply about it first lol

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~M

~M~, don't listen to that repair manual, or anyone on here. You do NOT need to take that stupid engine out of your truck to get the oil pan off.

Simply, use a small, shaped plastic explosive charge place between the axle and the oil pan and my friend you will have that pan off faster than you can say OH NO!!

Trust me, I have removed and inserted a motor into this truck 8 times now in less than 7 months, or so, give or take. Yes indeed, that motor has to come out.

Here's a tip:14MM is the same as 9/16, for those transmission bolts. Even a large crescent wrench will work for the EGR tube. Look 10 times at everything to make sure (Ground cable!) everything is disconnected. Make sure you remove your clutch cable ALL THE WAY from the engine or you will stretch it out. Save every nut, bolt, washer and piece of dirt, because they like to run away from you. If you do end up rebuilding the motor, make sure you are NOT 180 degrees out of phase. When the hole on the CAM sprocket is on top, the number FOUR piston is at TDC. NOT the number one. That was my mistake, anyway.

lol thank you, i laughed for a very long time once i read that e-mail. i was a little intimadated at removing the engine, im very new at working on my little luv and i am kinda learning as i go along. from now on though i will stick to "the book/this website" more.
thank you for your help!!!

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Stick to the manual and you will be OK. It's not as hard as you think at all. It is just time consuming. You can do it all alone, but it is 10 times easier and faster to have a friend wrenching on it, too. Once you do it, you will be proud of yourself. Get a clutch tool aligner if you mess with the clutch. You don't need one, but it makes things easier. Oh, and when you pull your oil pan, don't use silicone to seal it. ONLY put silicone on the places in the manual where it says to. You can also coat both sides of the gasket to help it "seat". Also, only work in a dust-free environment or you will harm your engine immediately. You can use a jack to angle the transmission upwards to get the engine back in. A tip for you, is that if you get the engine close enough to the transmission, use the long bolts and nuts and tighten up and down, or side to side until the transmission is against the motor. Trying to wiggle them together can be hard sometimes.

I have installed a pan gasket on 2 different 4x4's. All I did was unbolt the motor mounts and jack the motor up to the firewall. The problem with this is that you only have about 3-4'' to work with and you're pretty much working in the blind in the process. still a pain but for me, it was much easier than taking the engine out. Just my $.02