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So I watched an episode the other night, and they used filtered french fry oil to use as fuel in a diesel, and it worked!!! Makes me want a diesel, with the price of gas going up!!!

Yes, the price of fuel these days is going a little bit nuts. It has receded a few cents in my area, but the other day I went by a fuel station 7 miles away from my house where 87 unleaded gas was $3.05/gallon. Oh and the good thing was diesel fuel was $2.91/gallon.

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I know a guy a block down the road that has been running vegetable oil in his deisel for almost a year now.
Just filter it and pour it in.
The thing is, that restaurants will just about give it away.

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I am surprised that The goverment hasen't jumped on it yet... Like they did on #2 Fuel oil. They will come up with some sill ass law to make it against the Law for the resturant to give away the oil... Its all Bullshit I say

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I think there's more to it than that though. I think french fry oil hardens like bacon grease when cool, no?

Check this out http://www.greasecar.com

I have a diesel and am looking into these ideas but haven't REALLY liked any yet. Some other web sites have systems that are like $2500!

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I don't think it hardens, and if I am not wrong, it's vegetable oil. They just ran it through a (like) coffee filter to get that tater pieces out, put it in a jug and ran it to the motor They diffrence between using diesel and the oil was a diffrence of I think 4% , diesel being better on mileage!

It just gums up when it's cold, so most people have a separate tank w/ a small heater and valves to switch b/w them.

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-Curr. rides- 1970 Ford LTD 4dr, 390 4Bbl, 2nd owner! With a few Extras 00' Civic beater...

That's asking for trouble. Finalman is correct. If you don't preheat it enough, you will do some damage. There's some good information at the Frybrid.com site. They offer one of the better conversion kits.

Jack

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My Dad has been running a biodiesel that he makes out of wast veg. oil for some time now with no problems so far. It is cheep to make and you just pour it in. You dont have to add another fuel tank or worry about it gelling up in your fuel lines. Plus Biodiesel is a great cleaner and has greater lubbing properties than petrodiesel. I am looking for a diesel so I can start making my own fuel. Bio Diesel is great.... Just my 2 cents.

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Got'er Did!

What kind vehicle / engine does your dad drive?

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This is a cool discussion- unfortunately I didn't see the aforementioned epsode of mythbusters. I have always been a proponent of biological diesel fuel.

About gasoline- try living in Wickenburg, Arizona. In Maricopa county (and I think Yavipi as well) we are "blessed" with special blends of fuel. The price i think was $3.15 at the cheapest station in town for 87. I'm glad I don't have a long way to drive to work and school right now. Even still, the actual difference between operating your car now as opposed to 3 years ago isn't much more then $10 per fill up. It hurts, but it's more apparent then real. In Pennsylvania I used to live in a house heated with oil. THAT hurts when the fuel prices go up. When you keep ~2000 gallons of oil though you can play the market a little throughout the winter.

I think the auto industry needs to push clean diesel technology more then it is currently. I think the current perceptions of diesels are:

1) The garbage truck, or semi starting from a stop light. Smoke grandly pouring from the stacks. Even though the majority of this is harmless carbon (might not smell great, might make you sneeze). These vehicles literally stink and spout soot. Most people do not like this (I am one of the exceptions).

2) The 18 wheeler climbing the mountain. Yeah, we've all been stuck behind a semi trying to go up a steep hill. It isn't much fun. The perception that diesels are underpowered is fueled by the likes of the VW Rabbit (the car that Harry Chaipen was killed in), and some of the other imported diesels. In absolute fairness, I doubt that a LUV diesel is much to write home about when it comes to power, although I can't say that from experience.

These perceptions are certainly unfair. I dare you to try and make a new VW TDI put out soot. I'm not sure it's possible. TDI is not perhaps the best example, since the only version available stateside is a mere 1.9 (?) litres. But they epitomize small econemy in diesels while being extremely clean emissions wise.

How about a Chevy Duramax? Having driven one a few weeks ago, it has PLENTY of power, is only slightly louder then a gas engine, and in stock trim produces little odor and little soot.

I believe I remember hearing somebody tell me about a bio diesel conversion for the Duramax chevy. Not sure of a lot of specifics, but it changes something with the fuel filter and lines to make it safe for biodiesel. I think the intended fuel was a kind of rapeseed oil.

Anyway I think it would be cool if automakers switched the focus to clean diesel. Not only do you have the potential for biological (and renewable) fuels, but you have the potential to be more efficient while not forcing everybody in to little dinky cars that nobody really wants.

Oh, 2 links regarding the "diesel weed":

http://www.popularmechanics.com/science ... 88501.html

http://www.biodieseltechnologiesindia.c ... urcas.html

It ain't veggie oil, but it is a biological, renewable diesel fuel that might be a potential alternative energy source.

OH one more thing, I have heard that either rudolph diesel's first plans called for the use of peanut oil as a fuel. It was either that or Cummins' first diesel used peanut oil. I can't quite remember exactly now...

Hey Rondog he has a 93 Dodge dullie 3500 5 speed with a banks power package. its pretty fun to drive around town with the stick. Its seems to run stronger with the bio than petrodiesel and from what I can tell you really cant smell that Frech Fry Smell, unless you stick your nose in the tail pipe while its running....... Then you will look like an idiot.

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You would be quite correct there, CDG. Mr. Diesel's first design was for this engine to burn some sort of vegetable or peanut oil, NOT diesel fuel. The reason we have diesel fuel is because of automakers and oil companies upset about the idea of us not being slaves to crude oil and the overseas companies that sell it to this country. I would like to see the government take action to help get the biodiesel idea off the ground. I also believe that has engines could be converted easily enough to run ethanol. Then whatever you drive, there is an alternative to supporting the Muslim countries and possibly supporting terrorism as well. Plus, we all have a fuel that can be grown and pollutes less.

Hm, yes I did not initially want to mention the politics of biodiesel, but it could potentially stand the gain the US quite a bit. We would be free from politically unstable countires for a major part of our oil requirements. I don't know the potential to heat a home on veggie oil though... Even still, aotomobiles would be a start in cutting our dependence on (probably unreliable) foreign resources.

Further, it could be just the thing we need to build a good relationship with Mexico and end some of our current issues with illegal immigration. Let them grow this stuff in Mexico. Shipping it would be cheap if you could get some pipelines put up in there. It would solve some of the terriable poverty in the region. Mexico is a politically stable (relatively) region. We could help out Mexico, giving us a reliable trade partner in the future, and one that we probably won't go to war with in the forseeable future. Or you can just grow it in the USA as well...

Of course this is open to difference of opinion, but I see Bio as being a future for decreased emissions, a more stable fuel price, stronger econemy, less dependence on crude oil, and an overall lower consumption of oil.

Anyway good stuff.

Plus, you could help out struggling farmers in our own country. With the way tobacco is going, many farmers, including many in NC where I call home, are having a harder and harder time making it financially. Having a crop that we would all depend on to produce fuel would certainly ease the financial burden of many of our own farmers in this country. But anyways, enough politics, let's just wait and hope that things go our way, and for now, a few diesel owners are already enjoying the benefits of running bio-diesel in their engines and "sticking it to the man!"

I've been running B100 for a while now in my diesel luv. The only thing I've really had to do was keep an eye on my fuel lines and replace them with vitron lines as they degrade and swap out the old petro-diesel fuel filter. I've noticed that it runs better on biodiesel than on straight diesel. I'll be doing the SVO (straight vegetable oil) conversion soon and with the duel tank setup i'm planning my extended range is gonna hopefully be around 900 miles give or take.

Jatropha certainly has the advantage of being called a "weed". Thing is you have to watch cloesly the economics of growing the stuff, as growing biodiesel fuel here might not pay. So hopefully more developments can be made to ensure that Jatropha becomes a profitable crop for farmers in the US.

pidge- I'd definately be interested in seeing what you do with that. You should post here when you get that all done.

Oh, I think another cool thing about bio-diesel is that it doesn't make the current diesels on the road totally obsolete. A few hundred dollars worth of fuel lines and hardware is a LOT cheaper then buying a new truck. Well, maybe not cheaper then buying a new LUV though. LOL Just kidding around.

This was on the news here this week. They said new vegie oil is about $2.50 a gallon and can go right into the tank!


http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?secti ... id=4042806



I have to correct myself. New veggie oil cannot go into your diesel tank. You just don't have to filter it (like you would used fry oil) before you put into your biodiesel conversion systems fuel tank.

I knew it was to good to be true. I thought for a bit that I could fuel my pick up at the Costco with out making any changes to it. That would have been baaad!!

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Plants are not the best source for biodiesel. The highest potential production is from algae. Check out this site.http://www.unh.edu/p2/biodiesel/article_alge.html
The techniques for this production are well established for medicinal uses of algae. Once the oil is extracted it can be processed into biodiesel like any other oil. Or burned straight like any other vegetable oil.

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