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Which state has more "Hic's"
Oregon 17%  17%  [ 2 ]
Arkansas 75%  75%  [ 9 ]
Idaho 8%  8%  [ 1 ]
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 22, 2004 2:26 pm 
Hmmm , just went to the highschool today to make up one of my CIM tests. if you live in oregon you know what im talking about .
and there where 4 other people there .... they all failed ... and i passed by 4 questions... the only thing i have to say ...is... "Hic' What does this button do ?" ... oh wait that was the kid next to me ..lol


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 22, 2004 2:42 pm 
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CIM tests are stupid and pointless. Basically a waste of time. They can budget cut our schools, stop our elective classes, cut our school days, but they will still be the only state doing CIM testing.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2004 9:44 pm 
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Yeah, i seriously disagree with CIM testing. Especially since the "No Child Left Behind" act was passed. That means that everyone is tested at grade level, even people on IEP's (delayed learning programs), and those on ESL (english as second language). This, in my eyes, leaves a lot of children behind. Plus, do you have any idea how much money it takes to send out ALL those packets, then recieve the answer sheets and pay for the Scantron-type machine to read it, THEN ship back?? All money that's needed badly in out education program. Then, to top it all off, most of the colleges around here (Oregon) dont even look at CIM scores. Idiocy if you asked me...

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2004 10:47 pm 
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Guess I must be old now, I've lived in Oregon all my life and don't know exactly what a CIM test is. I remember having to take SRA tests all the way through grade school, but nothing past that except PSAT/SAT.

At the time I sorta liked those tests. I was always the freak that brought up the school average on SRAs by getting 99th percentile in everything. I've always been a wizard at standardized testing I guess. 1290 on the SATs with zero study time and I didn't bother with the PSAT. The validictorian had to take them four times so I wouldn't have the class high score, he ended up with a 1310.

My freak savant test skills came in real handy in the 3rd grade when my teacher thought I was not as smart as the rest of the class. When she tried to tell my mom I should be held back, mom handed her the test scores and said, and I quote, "I think the problem is that he is smarter than you are." I believe she moved down to teaching 1st grade a couple years later, more her speed I think. ;)


I agree that reliance on standardized testing poses problems, I was a good example of how they can be skewed. Problem is, you can't compare between schools or even larger groups without some kind of equivalent measure. You can't rely on the schools or individual teachers to evaluate everyone the same. Where one teacher may say "Timmy is doing fine in math" another may say "That kid couldn't add one plus one with a calculator and a cheatsheet" There has to be some way to assess how effective schooling is and correct problems where they may be. You don't just build a drag truck and run it without wanting to see a time slip do you?

Given my ignorance of the topic I shouldn't soapbox in on the issue too much. I guess my point is that the tests and testing method are probably not 100% of the problem. I think the problem is likely more in the analysis of the results, and the actions taken based on that analysis. If you don't consider all the contributing factors, the plain results don't mean a whole lot.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2004 11:18 pm 
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you forgot to put kentucky in that poll :lol:

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 24, 2004 9:34 am 
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I think its fine that we get tested, but the fact of the matter is that we get tested all too often. Every year? Come on... What ever happened to the Benchmark system? like, 4th grade, 6th grade, 9th gade, 11th? Or something like that. I remember hearing about that when i was in gradeschool, but im not sure exactly what the deal was... makes a lot more sense to me

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