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PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 6:46 am 
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For those who didnt know, I sold, or at least tried to sell my truck on ebay. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayI ... 0086507486
It took amost two weeks and i get this

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The best part is, he said he was from california, the cashiers check is from utah, and the letter came from the UK :P

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 8:58 am 
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Hmm... think it's a fraud?

Good luck!!

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That sucks, did you report them to anybody so they can catch this scumbag??

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ya i got ahold of ebay and im going to repost it and I called the bank on the check and they have no record of it and advised me not to cash it. It just kinda gets to me that some people are just assholes and are pretty much going to make me only take cash or paypal. Ohh well, theres something better coming

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I've seen this before. It seems to be getting more and more popular.

Believe it or not, I know someone that was dumb enough to fall for this scam. He gave them almost 10 grand before he caught on, and never got his money back.

Coincidentally, someone seems to have gone on a shopping spree with my credit card today. The wife and I got my card declined at Taco Bell for lunch. When we came home and got online we found out that someone spent about $3500 today on our credit card. I'm happy about it. :x


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Aw man that sucks Ben!!!! Unlike the friend who gave away $10G's, hoping you can get your card cleared. The only good thing now days with all the surveilence cameras, maybe the store has some footage of the lowlife. Did they do it all in one shot or hit a few stores??? I was actually happy with my CC company when I bought my house, I spent some $$ on appliances at Best Buy and then went to Lowes to buy some more stuff and the credit card company declined that purchase until they verified it was me. Hope you get your situation taken care of. How did they get your card?

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oh man I would raise hell I am sorry to hear about this B.S that happend to you and Ben


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Thanks Ben. The flat screen looks good on my wall. :lol:
Oh crap! I forgot about the cameras! 8O
Sorry to hear that. Credit card and identity theft is just out of hand now days. Glad you caught it early though.


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When one of my customers was traveling, he used his card to pay for lunch at some local restaurant, and when he stopped for gas right after that, he found out his card had been switched for a stolen one by the young guy that waited on him. He immediately called the local police, (fortunately he had enough cash to pay for his gas), and he and the policeman went right back to the restaurant where they caught the guy that waited on him, the policeman searched him and his locker and his car, and caught him red-handed with his card (and a few more cards) on him. Thankfully, he got his card back and the policeman arrested the guy.

Think about how many times you may have used a card at a bar or a restaurant when you were traveling and never checked it when they handed it back...pretty scary, huh? If he hadn't stopped for gas right away, he could have been miles away before he found out, he could have possibly got arrested himself for possession of a stolen credit card, his card could have been maxed out, and the thief could have been long gone.

Also, one of my wife's co-workers caught a kid that worked at a pizza place using his cell phone's camera to take pictures of his card and the receipt signatures from the register just by sheer accident, and grabbed the guy's phone out of his hand and yelled for the manager, who immediately called the police. It turns out that the kid's phone was full of picture of cards and signatures, and the pizza place owner was extremely apologetic to my wife's co-worker...and really pissed off at his crooked employee, who was immediately arrested and hauled off to jail.

Now whenever I travel, I try to get cash at an atm before I make any small purchases, and if I have to use my card, I always hand carry it myself to the cashier and check my card and my receipt carefully before I leave.

Credit card theft and identity theft is no joking matter, and me and my wife both have had to go about 15 rounds with our credit card company and our bank before about phony charges to us that we never made or authorized. It took a long time to finally get them removed, get our cards replaced, and everything all straightened out.

It really sucks that there are lots of lowlife people that like to prey on other hardworking and honest people's credit.

Good luck Ben...and I hope they catch the person and lock their sorry thieving butt up.


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Aw man that sucks Ben!!!! Unlike the friend who gave away $10G's, hoping you can get your card cleared. The only good thing now days with all the surveilence cameras, maybe the store has some footage of the lowlife. Did they do it all in one shot or hit a few stores??? I was actually happy with my CC company when I bought my house, I spent some $$ on appliances at Best Buy and then went to Lowes to buy some more stuff and the credit card company declined that purchase until they verified it was me. Hope you get your situation taken care of. How did they get your card?

Yes, that was one of my questions for the bank. When I was with Wells Fargo, they would do the same thing your bank did. Our new bank apparently doesn't have a limit. Then let them clear out the $1500 in our account and then continue on to overdraft us by over $2000 before finally declining the card. What a mess!

They hit 4 stores with 7 transactions by 11AM. They spent about $500 each time. Check this out:

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3/12/2007
3/12/2007 Overdraft Protection Deposit 2,500.00 78.87
3/12/2007
3/12/2007 POS Withdrawal TACO BELL #38300038SAN BERNADINO CAUS 10.16 -2,421.13
3/12/2007
3/12/2007 POS Withdrawal JACK IN THE BO00053RNH CUCAMONGA CAUS 1.82 -2,410.97
3/12/2007
3/12/2007 POS Withdrawal WAL-MART #1693 REDLANDS CAUS 664.34 -2,409.15
3/12/2007
3/12/2007 POS Withdrawal THE HOME DEPOT 1013REDLANDS CAUS 385.75 -1,744.81
3/12/2007
3/12/2007 POS Withdrawal WAL MART COLTON CAUS 720.70 -1,359.06
3/12/2007
3/12/2007 POS Withdrawal THE HOME DEPOT 610 SAN BERNADINO CAUS 418.07 -638.36
3/12/2007
3/12/2007 POS Withdrawal VINCES SPAGHETTI RANCHO CUCAMO CAUS 22.02 -220.29
3/12/2007
3/12/2007 POS Withdrawal TARGET 00001SAN BERNARDIN CAUS 646.49 -198.27
3/12/2007
3/12/2007 POS Withdrawal DAVE + BUSTERS #10 ONTARIO CAUS 21.81 448.22
3/12/2007
3/12/2007 POS Withdrawal TARGET 00018REDLANDS CAUS 500.00 470.03
3/12/2007
3/12/2007 POS Withdrawal TARGET 00018REDLANDS CAUS 439.42 970.03

We don't know when or how they got our card. I don't use that card to buy anything online, but we do use it at the grocery store and to go out to dinner and stuff. My guess is, it was copied at a local restaurant by some (*&%^& who thinks he deserves money for free.

I also know a guy that did this sort of thing when he was younger. At the time he totally justified his actions by claiming that if people were "stupid enough" to let him get away with it, then they deserved it. Of course, wasn't long after he made that statement that he did some jail time.


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When one of my customers was traveling, he used his card to pay for lunch at some local restaurant, and when he stopped for gas right after that, he found out his card had been switched for a stolen one by the young guy that waited on him. He immediately called the local police, (fortunately he had enough cash to pay for his gas), and he and the policeman went right back to the restaurant where they caught the guy that waited on him, the policeman searched him and his locker and his car, and caught him red-handed with his card (and a few more cards) on him. Thankfully, he got his card back and the policeman arrested the guy.

Think about how many times you may have used a card at a bar or a restaurant when you were traveling and never checked it when they handed it back...pretty scary, huh? If he hadn't stopped for gas right away, he could have been miles away before he found out, he could have possibly got arrested himself for possession of a stolen credit card, his card could have been maxed out, and the thief could have been long gone.

Also, one of my wife's co-workers caught a kid that worked at a pizza place using his cell phone's camera to take pictures of his card and the receipt signatures from the register just by sheer accident, and grabbed the guy's phone out of his hand and yelled for the manager, who immediately called the police. It turns out that the kid's phone was full of picture of cards and signatures, and the pizza place owner was extremely apologetic to my wife's co-worker...and really pissed off at his crooked employee, who was immediately arrested and hauled off to jail.

Now whenever I travel, I try to get cash at an atm before I make any small purchases, and if I have to use my card, I always hand carry it myself to the cashier and check my card and my receipt carefully before I leave.

Credit card theft and identity theft is no joking matter, and me and my wife both have had to go about 15 rounds with our credit card company and our bank before about phony charges to us that we never made or authorized. It took a long time to finally get them removed, get our cards replaced, and everything all straightened out.

It really sucks that there are lots of lowlife people that like to prey on other hardworking and honest people's credit.

Good luck Ben...and I hope they catch the person and lock their sorry thieving butt up.


I think the thing that bugs me the most, is that obviously at some point this &*$% interacted with me, copied my card, and gave it back to me, all the while planning his BS. It just makes me go back in my head and second guess every stranger that I've given my card to in the last couple months.

We are in communication with our bank, but they are reacting slowly, and they've avoided answering the big question, "who gets to eat the charges".


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Thanks Ben. The flat screen looks good on my wall. :lol:
Oh crap! I forgot about the cameras! 8O
Sorry to hear that. Credit card and identity theft is just out of hand now days. Glad you caught it early though.

I thought you looked a little shady. I should learn to trust my instincts more. :)


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Well, hope you get it cleared up and sounds like time for a new bank once things get fixed.

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In all of those charges, there should be someone somewhere that can remember the person that used that card. Call the cops, try to get a security camera images or a decent description if you can, and go after the jerk. And don't back down one bit if your bank tries to not remove the charges and stick you with them.

The biggest problem with this kind of garbage is most people don't aggressively push the police and the bank to do something or to try and catch the culprit. I don't know if it is just plain laziness or the embarassment that causes most people to give up, but for crying out loud, don't just let it slide. You have to aggressively advocate for yourself when something like this happens or nothing much ever gets done, that's for sure.

Give 'em hell Ben.


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I can't believe your bank actually let all those transactions go down that close together without getting suspicious. my credit union hassles the crap out of me on legit purchases that I make and they constantly apologized for it but I tell them they can do that all they want as long as they keep looking out for my money. my CU wouldnt have let that happen. maybe 3 transactions before they put the lock down on it and started calling me. I hope it all works out man. I F'ing hate scumbags that do that crap. worst piece of sh!t there is.

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A couple years ago I had cell phone bills come to me in the mail for phones that were in my name and ss#, but I never had. It was two different cell companies and one had a collection agency on me!
They both cleared all charges when I told them they are not mine, it must be identity theft.

Every time I called the one co. to settle this, they would ask me for my ss# to make sure it was really me. I tried to explain that it is me but the thief also had my ss# so how does that prove to you this is me calling.?.?
This would just confuse them. :lol: :roll:


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In 1999, I had a credit card taken out in my name by someone going through the mailbox/trash.. The credit card companies' response to me was, it would be easier if you just paid it. After going about 30 rounds with them over it, they sold the account to someone else, it has been resold at least 6 times. When they contact me I just laugh and tell them the situation along with the deal that if it goes on my credit report, the responding lawsuit will be rather large. The latest offer last month was if I paid 25 percent of the total, they would forget the rest. Like they wouldn't want it all if I actually owed them. :lol:

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My credit card company calls me when I use my card more than usual.
I used to, on occasion, use it to fuel my rig while on an out of town trip. My wife says they would call real quick when I did that!


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Thats a bummer that happened to you. I tried to buy my PS3 ($888.08) and they declined it so I called my bank to raise my spending limit. Later that day my bank called me back to verify I had actually baught the stuff.


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Well, guys, there's another new scam out, and we got it in the mail.
The letter, stating that my wife had won a Mega 2000 lottery!! And there was a check enclosed, for over 2,936.00. Wow, boy could we use the money! However, the letter came from England and the check came from a Spa store in southern California. The letter did not mention a check from this store. The store did not mention the Lottery. You're suppose to cash the check, and mail back the cash, to the Lottery's main office (processing fees) to get your 12,000,000.00! My wife called our bank, read the letter to them and the check information. Come to find out the check, although legal, had been stolen, and was a forgery. They, the bank, already had one person try to cash another check from the same company.

I also received a letter from a guy, (threw it away already) a couple a weeks ago. He offered my 50,000.00 dollars for my Luv. I may be stupid, but not that stupid, not as stupid as this guy was. "I found your Chevy Luv, listed on EBay for sale." Yea, right. To me my Luv is worth a lot of money, but 50,000.00?

And wouldn't you know, I've had an awful amount of "relatives" who have died in Africa, Nigeria, etc. who were Millionaires. All have had no kids, worked for oil companies and have had secret bank accounts, and I was listed as the only next of kin. They have all died in either airplane accidents or automobile accidents, and their wives were with them.
Note: If any letter, email address has the following, Nigeria, UK, Africa, England, you know you're getting scammed.

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